Voyager discussion

let us know how that goes :slight_smile:

just curious, which episode so far do you think is the weakest?

Voyager would have been a lot better if it had a rag tag civilian fleet traveling with it.

And balls.

Weakest? I don’t know. I know which ones I either a) had little interest in or b) relatively disliked (see Seven’s memories of physical violation episode), but I don’t know about weak. I’ll think about it though.

The Maquis had balls…until they were neutered.

they were neutered when they lost their ship in the first episode.

I think if they kept the Maquis ship through the first season, losing the ship and having to integrate the crew would have a lot more impact.

Not going to lie, the talk of “balls” strikes me as a bit inappropriate. There are clearer ways to say that you think the show lacks certain characteristics that one might value in a Star Trek series (I might disagree, but that’s OK), but there are more precise ways to say things that don’t offend.

(sorry, that term is one of my pet peeves… hmmm I should go add it to the pet peeves thread ;))

How about huevos? Or Cajones?:o

good point, sorry about that.

the Maquis presence is hardly felt throughout the series, which some people feel a great story opportunity is lost.

that probably is one of the most common saying shared between cultures =_=

my culture uses Lān-pha.

Which always made me chuckle when I hear the Spanish word for lamp.

Agreed. I remember after the pilot I was really excited to see how they integrated the crew… and it was kind of plop! since they resolved it so quickly. The only vestige of conflict was Seska, and she wasn’t used as well as she might have been.

Two of the better episodes that dealt with the Maquis/Federation situation were ‘Lower Decks’ where Katherine Hepburn… errr, I mean Janeway tried to get to know some neglected crew members. Some of which were Maquis…

The other was where Torres tries to deal with the grief of knowing all of her Maquis comrades back in the alpha Quadrant were killed in a raid.

The one where she keeps turning off the holodeck safety protocols? That was cool, though I felt like it was a bit out of place watching it back to back with the rest of the season - kind of like, oh yeah, B’Elanna, she’s sad, but with no lead-up to it in other episodes. But it was good.

Agreed, that is why sometimes it is better to watch some of the more exceptional episodes by themselves.

I guess that is why I am such a fan of the ‘Viewers Choice’ marathons SciFi used to run, you get to gorge yourself on all of your favorites. Without the filler…

Kind of like eating a Hebrew National versus a generic hot dog with all of that sawdust and debris in there… eeewww!:stuck_out_tongue:

speaking of B’Elanna episodes - I recently watched “Barge of the Dead” from season 6 and loved it - in the Delta quadrant with all the cool Borg stuff it’s easy to forget how neat the Klingons can be. Plus I’ve always been a sucker for Klingon episodes :smiley:

there’s a easy two word explanation for why you loved the episode… “Ron Moore”

I did see that name there… and wondered where I knew it from :wink: j/k

While some of the younger viewers seem drawn to the flashy episodes with gadgets, cool looking ships and battle scenes… I still think that the majority of Trek’s best episodes are character driven.

Inner light, Lessons, Family and so on…

So I’ve finished season 6, I would be a disc into season 7, but whoever last checked them out sucks and put the wrong disc in the case, so I have disc 2… I’d like to see the 2nd part of Unimatrix Zero first, thanks :wink:

Season 6 was also fun, I liked the addition of the other borg children. I totally get what Audra meant when she was talking in an older podcast about Mark Sheppard’s (who I always just want to call Romo Lampkin lol) character - he sucks! to do that to your own child… zero cool.

That said, there weren’t a lot of episodes that really stood out to me - it felt like a very mechanical season, though I enjoyed it. The themes about art and artistic creation in a few of the episodes were interesting and nicely done, and were a change from earlier seasons. The whole Fair Haven storyline was… kind of odd, but I see why they did it.

I remember liking ‘Barge of the Dead’ and ‘Memorial’ from that season. The “Doctor” episodes similar to the Ferengi episodes of DS9 are always fun. As you say, very mechanical and dare I say rehatching plots (e.g. Memorial (TNG’s ‘The Inner Light’); Blink of an Eye (TOS’s ‘Wink of an Eye’); Spirit Folk (TNG’s ‘Ship in a Bottle’); Alice (Stephen King’s ‘Christine’) hehe

Anyway, at the time this first aired I felt the people working on Star Trek were bored with it. I was actually shocked when they announced a new series ‘Enterprise’ was in the works.

yeah, sadly that probably would be the case for season 7. By then the producers has succeeded in weeding out the philosophical stories as heard from Jeri Taylor in a season 4 interview.