Tory became a monster quicker than I thought

I know of no such place. There is however the great state of Kally-four-nee-ah.

After rereading this thread this morning I’ve come to the conclusion that he writers at BSG are all sadists, and we are their innocent victims ! :mad:

I submit that we wait for a 14 episode period before passing judgement on any action taken by any member of the show. It’s the only fair way.

See you all in October, then !! :smiley:

kidding…we eat this stuff up, don’t we??

Tori is quickly becoming a very interesting character. Last year, she was a bit of a non-character. I like this new direction!

With respect, that’s BS. Tory acted purely out of self-interest. In fact, I’m beginning to wonder if she didn’t murder Cally so that she could move in on the Chief.

That’s the first time I’ve seen that here and you’re right, it must surely have been in her mind !

Ask Cally if it’s pardonable. Better yet, ask little Nicky if it is.

Well, I did note in my review, here:
http://normdoering.blogspot.com/2008/04/circuitry-is-thicker-than-blood-spoiler.html

“Thus part of Tory’s potential motive is set up, sexual jealousy.”

However, we’ll have to wait and see how that plays out. Considering that she’s already sleeping with Baltar, and that crying thing went nowhere, I’m not sure yet if that whole bar scene with Chief where she fondles his elbow wasn’t just a red herring.

Kind of off topic and a day late, but I’ve always wondered about this. We know they killed off Billy because the actor was moving on to “better” things. If they hadn’t killed of Billy, do you think he would be a Tylon at this point?

Hmmm… I think it was the position, (advise and manipulate the president) they were after, not the actor. So, yes: Billy would have been their choice and Sam would have been dropped in favor of a female character.

I’m going to take the posstion that what Tori did was wrong. Jus becaus I’m juding the action, does not mean I’ judgeing her character. Now, she still willingly, calms Cally down, she coldly takes her bayb away, lets cally wake up, and then shoots her out of an airlock. She even fakes cally out!

Does that seem right to anybody? A guy can go all night convincing himself ha somthing isn’t wrong, maybe he will even sart to believe its oaky, but that doesn’t make it okay.

Subconsciously at best. I mean, come on, Tory is hot and she could probably have a lot of guys, I don’t think she would go after the Chief if it wasn’t for the our-Cylonness-unites-us thing.

Considering that she’s already sleeping with Baltar

Well, she slept with Baltar - once. I don’t think this is going to become a regular thing.

Are you saying if Billy had survived, Starbuck would have gone bisexual ?

That’s what she’s after, perhaps, another Cylon. She couldn’t really love someone she would lie to and kill in an instant, and that appears to be how she feels about humans.

If it’s not, that scene with Baltar would be a waste of time.

No, Starbuck wouldn’t be sleeping with a Cylon. I don’t think that’s really adding to the bigger plot, that’s just a nice little incidental effect.

I’ve said before how much I love that our Bucky is straight BUT if she goes bi, she goes bi for ME. I’ve had dibs since the mini.

No more Billy!!! That ruddy-cheeked, twelve-year-old looking character represented the show’s innocence and it died when he died and should stay dead.

But really, does Baltar ever really sleep with anyone (besides Six) more than once? Most of what we see/know about are one time things or short flings…

Not that it really has to do with monstrosity, lol. And EmilyfromOhio, we totally agree - we’re judging the action, not the individual.

Though I’m completely open to the fact that I might be eating my words once we see the rest of the episodes…

He didn’t just sleep with her, he told her God gave Cylons emotions and feelings. We don’t know what Tory makes of that. We don’t know what her tears meant. There is a lot of unresolved stuff going on there.

So do you think Billy would have murdered Cally?

If he was chosen as the final Cylon he would have murdered some character who had found out his secret. Or Tigh would have murdered them. It wouldn’t necessarily been Cally. If it were Billy it might have been Petty Officer Anastasia Dualla. Well, if I were writing it.

(covers ears and goes lalalalala as she turns and hugs a poster of billy)

It’s okay billy, click didn’t mean it,

LOL darthweef!!! I can’t tell you how much I hate listening to him governate