So, What the Frak was Kara Thrace???

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#161

Do most people here think the wreckage on Erf was from the same explosion in Maelstrom? I thought the original viper and Kara was totally destroyed there but then resurrected and crashed into Erf. And then, resurrected once again, and returned to the fleet. I know that’s nonsensical but it’s the way it seemed.

Another view I have that might differ from everyone else is that what was called “God” in the show probably wasn’t a god at all (not like we understand the word). I think it was a power with more abilities and a much, much broader perspective that knew the human/cylon cycles and only wanted to make sure at least one side survived each cycle.

So, in my imagination the “God” in the show was something like Star Trek TNG’s Q…but with a lot less slapstick.

#162

i think i just saw Kara ressurected again in the Big Bang Theory…

#163

You know he doesn’t like that name.

#164

The answer is: badass phantom hottie.

#165

who, me?
:smiley:

#166

Certainly; if you haven’t resolved the ring situation yet, I’m sure the Guardians of the Universe would deem you worthy of (Green) power rings.

#167

Another view I have that might differ from everyone else is that what was called “God” in the show probably wasn’t a god at all (not like we understand the word). I think it was a power with more abilities and a much, much broader perspective that knew the human/cylon cycles and only wanted to make sure at least one side survived each cycle.

Like the Lords of Cobol?

#168

Yeah, they were probably part of the supervisors of the cycle. Though, in the Final 5 comics (a four-part story), the Head characters were Lords of Kobol, while god I think remained something separate somehow.

#169

In a good way or a bad way?

I actually liked Kara’s ending. I think it fit, although I was truly sad that she had to die to begin to fulfill her destiny. She did strike me as someone who didn’t know what to do without an enemy, nor how to be herself if she wasn’t also her own enemy, and through her character arc she resolved both enemy relationships (with the cylons and with herself), so ceasing to exist made sense. I wish she’d gotten a better goodbye with the Admiral.

But that’s my take on Kara’s wrap-up, and I totally understand why others felt dissatisfied at her seeming evaporation.

#170

…Kara realized that the mandala she kept drawing as a child was a subconscious memory of how the top of her cot looked like as a baby…

…then she remembered who her parents were and that she was a princess who was stolen at birth because her long golden locks has special healing powers and that it would turn brown if it was cut … :eek:

…and that she has a voice of a blonde pop singer who coloured her hair brunette…

hey wait! wrong Disney movie :stuck_out_tongue: heheh…

#171

I am sure someone mentioned this before, but I just thought of it so… here goes…

First Starbuck flew into the gas giant, logic says she died there. Even if she didn’t, that starbuck probably became of Charbuck. That means Jesusbuck is a different Starbuck.

So without going to the God or gods, the easiest explanation is Starbuck is a cylon. A Cylon model unknown to other Cylons? Maybe the Daniel model underwent a sex change? Maybe the spliter Cylon group actually came up with a functional model, and that model is Starbuck?

#172

Yeah. I was thinking that’s where they were going with Caprica. We’d find out about the basestar in ‘Razor’ and probably other factions of Cylons out there. Perhaps there were some that didn’t want to exterminate humans but wanted, like Cavil, to explore the universe.

#173

OK here is my take

  1. sounds to me like “the gods” from when the gods and men lived in peace together on kobol were probably like these “beings of light” from the original series

  2. angels being “gods” (beings of light) via TOS kara is sent to guide us to earth 2 by these “gods” that used to live with us.

3 when starbuck 1.0 “imploded” at the gas giant she actually jumped (i’m surprised no one has mentioned this in an 18 page long 2 plus year old thread)… to earth 1.0 …! but it was in a dense gas giant, with unknown gasses and that caused a residual explosion, after the jump, that looked like her ship exploded.

  1. the “gods” were the ones that resurrected kara and sent her back in a brand new viper. (maybe the earth 1.0 had an undiscovered resurrection facility left over by the final 5 when they left earth 1.0 that detected kara dying and downloaded/resurrected her even though she was human [of course this is wild speculation] it could have been found/restored/powered/used by the “gods” until they sent kara back, then they destroyed it [again wild speculation] of course there is no support for this in either series except that the final (actually original) 5 stated that that was where they perfected the resurrection technology.

After reading and watching everything i could this is the best I could come up with to make everything flow in a continuous manner.

hope this finds agreement.

#174

hmm… that would have been awesome, but my one issue is, I thought Vipers couldn’t jump (just check battlestar Wiki, they cant’t jump). Since Vipers can’t jump, unless her Viper was specially fitted with a FLT from the raptor, it can’t be justified. Had Starbuck went with a Raptor, then yeah, I’d totally love to see that explanation. Too bad, they should have went with a Raptor.

i LOVE the idea of a left over resurrection facility on Earf. Two things, 1. that means beings of light or someother 13th tribe survivors still lived on erf. 2. If they could resurrect Kara (in this case, cloning and transplanted her memories), that truly is resurrection. This is really awesome. Too bad they didn’t explore that direction.

#175

I thought Vipers couldn’t jump (just check battlestar Wiki, they cant’t jump). Since Vipers can’t jump, unless her Viper was specially fitted with a FLT from the raptor, it can’t be justified.

Depends what you mean by “jump”. No, Vipers have no FTL, but if we are going with wild theories, there could have been some natural/godlike thenominon that sent her to Earth via FTL jump. It’s also possible another ship could have taken the Viper aboard and then jumped (or if it works like it does in Babylon 5, opened a jump point and the Viper went through ;)).

  1. the “gods” were the ones that resurrected kara and sent her back in a brand new viper. (maybe the earth 1.0 had an undiscovered resurrection facility left over by the final 5 when they left earth 1.0 that detected kara dying and downloaded/resurrected her even though she was human [of course this is wild speculation] it could have been found/restored/powered/used by the “gods” until they sent kara back, then they destroyed it [again wild speculation] of course there is no support for this in either series except that the final (actually original) 5 stated that that was where they perfected the resurrection technology.

Despite no evidence for this, this makes an alarming amount of sense. I like it. Doesn’t explain the new Viper though.

#176

The lovechild of John Mcclane, and golda meir.

#177

Thanks, now i’ll have that in my head all day.:slight_smile:

#178

Okay, what the hell’s going on? I’m off the ship for a few hours and everybody’s acting-

A few hours? Kara, you were gone for over two months.

That’s impossible! My ship’s clock reads six hours and change.

Kara, Sam, He That Believeth in Me

Gods aren’t subject to the speed of light. Or are they? Certainly the god implied in the fan presumption “God Did It!” is an omniscient omnipresent entity existing outside spacetime and all through it.

Kara and her Viper experienced “ordinary” relativistic time dilation at near the speed of light. The fact of relativistic effects are acknowledged later in the show when Anders states the final five also experienced time dilation during their journey from Earth to the Colonies. Compressing two months to six hours requires a velocity of ~ 0.99999c. On the other hand Kara’s Viper chronometer says she traveled a distance necessarily less than six light hours. That’s far less than a single jump of up to 30 light years within the red line.

Or… Cylons hoaxed her Viper’s instruments and simply downloaded her memory image into a body six hours prior. She wouldn’t couldn’t sense the time gap. This fact of downloading is also covered, back in season two’s Downloaded.

For most theories, I believe it is safe to assume a mundane explanation for Kara’s resurrection was originally intended. There are too many Kara clues left unanswered scattered throughout season four. Daybreak changed all that by discarding those clues.

#179

I like that.

#180

It looks to me like Kara Thrace disappeared and then reappeared 150,000 years later in New York, working for CTU as an intelligence analyst, LOL.

And btw, I’ll be naming one of my future kids Thrace, and if I find out any of you took that name for your kid, I’ll be sending Thrace to beat your kid until he/she changes their name.