I guess I don’t mind the Adama crying because it’s his state of mind. It’s a necessary contrast to pulling himself together. That said, though, I don’t like watching people cry, particularly when I don’t share the motivation for sadness.
If you want to go old school, you could even refer to it as a “homosocial” relationship, which comes from the development of same-sex friendships within Renaissance Neoplatonism. Unfortunately I think that it is more misunderstood than the aforementioned term “bromance.”
The OED also says it’s legitimate, the 1661 example is: “FELTHAM Resolves II. lxvi. 328 Those shallows which Islanded that Countrey of felicity”. Interestingly it gives that example and then the rest are nineteenth century. But that’s int the transitive usage (“To make into or as into an island; to place as an island; to place, settle, or enclose on, or as on, an island; to insulate, isolate.”) as oopposed to the “set or dot” definition (whose usage examples are also nineteenth-century.)
Aset, we are on the same page here. I can understand that others are impatient, but I dislike that that impatience seems to translate into “this sucks!” in a lot of places (not so much on GWC, thank goodness. Because you guys are awesome!)
This reminds me of somewhere (I don’t remember where) that commented that if we let fans write the finale it would be 3 hours of space battles and threesomes. I would not be cool with that.
As much as I like pretty lights in the sky, I don’t watch BSG for the “sci-fi” aspects (though I’m not one of the viewers who watches despite it being sci-fi, as you all know), the effects, whatever, but because I care about the narrative. I like exposition. And exposition, drama, and action aren’t mutually exclusive categories. I feel the anticipation like I do at the end of an epic novel, knowing that I’m near the end and thus will “know” all there is to know within the diegesis, but also happy to see the ways in which that knowledge is revealed.
(whispering on)count on it dude (whispering off)
Pshaw. Like I’m going to trust any source that can’t spell “country” properly.
Howdy, Shodan, and thanks for the feedback. We’ll keep doin’ our best for ya- sometimes dark episodes seem to warrant light conversation, and episodes light on “revelations” sometimes steer us toward including other things. We don’t mean to disrespect Galactica, but fortunately we’re only a few voices among many, many others who have great things to say about it. (See: here at the forum!)
Haha! I love your story! And I’ve still never had a Frito pie, lol… which is probably because I’m not a big fan of Fritos. However, you can order Frito pie here at Sonic (drive-in burger place famous around TX, yum).
Very interesting ideas!
You just HAD to put it in your signature line, didn’t ya? 
Bwahahahaha!!! I always thought the exact same thing!
Re: Chuck’s frustration with the Tigh/Adama speculation, I’m pretty certain Chuck’s not concerned with the bromance/guy love/(what was it casilda called it?..) homosocial relationships. I think he was referring to less delicate interpretations out there on the web- not annoying because of the concept of homosexuality in itself, but annoying because it seems to be applied for the titillation of vaguely homophobic fans who want to stir things up. But that’s just my take on it.
I agree that it would be the primary motivation for people reading that into it - tangentially (thread drift!) this reminds me of a prof I had who referred to queer theory as “gay theory” who would go on for ages about how some “gay critics” wrote as if their sexuality gave them special insight into a text or an author’s biography. The prof was very pro usage of queer theory but not of criticism that was based more upon the critic’s identity politics than the text at hand… but yeah. Connection in my brain. That’s all.
it may have already been mentioned but
although roslin did open to page 61, it occurred in episode 420 (if you’re going by rdm’s nomenclature.) just putting that out there
Good catch. 
Sean: “Just to clarify: Cinderella was a golddigger. Snow White was a ho. Just sayin’.” >>>
Dear god that is funny as hell!!
Ah, that makes sense. I guess I’m just lucky that I haven’t come across and had to wade through those types of comments. Then again, I guess I stick mostly to GWC, Bear’s Blog, and Mo Ryan’s Chicago Tribune columns for my BSG discussion fix, so that probably has something to do with it. I know it’s been said a thousand times, but thank you, fellow GWCers, for making this such a friendly, interesting, and polite little corner of the internet, and thank you, ChuSeAudra, for doing such a great job setting the tone.
Nice one. I just loved that scene, “page 61” really made me laugh.
As far as I can tell, it’s real.
That was how I took his comments as well. I heartily agree!
Exactly what I was trying to say, but not very effectively. Thanks!
This reminds me of somewhere (I don’t remember where) that commented that if we let fans write the finale it would be 3 hours of space battles and threesomes. I would not be cool with that.
As much as I like pretty lights in the sky, I don’t watch BSG for the “sci-fi” aspects (though I’m not one of the viewers who watches despite it being sci-fi, as you all know), the effects, whatever, but because I care about the narrative. I like exposition. And exposition, drama, and action aren’t mutually exclusive categories. I feel the anticipation like I do at the end of an epic novel, knowing that I’m near the end and thus will “know” all there is to know within the diegesis, but also happy to see the ways in which that knowledge is revealed.
I too have likened it to a really intense novel. I am not one to flip to the back page, I know they’ll get there. I wanna see how they do it.
I also think I have to agree with Mo Ryan over at the Chicago Tribune. This meandering does seem a little pointless at times and they could have spread some of the reveals out a little better than they have. But it’s also allowing us to see the characters come to their point of acceptance of the reality & deal with their grief & mourning. I have needed these quiet moments too for the same reasons. I am in mourning too.
After much research, I have to say I disagree.
Interestingly if you search Starship Troopers into google pics, the related searches are Starship Troopers Showers, Starship Trooper Bugs, Denise Richards, Dina Meyers. It seems Starship Troopers isn’t known for it’s [cough] brilliant acting, and [cough] amazing script. Strange.
I’ve had a new thought about the Six venting scene. Most of us saw a pretty predictable scene “Save yourself, don’t worry about me!” With a 6 making the ultimate sacrifice. Now that I think about it…it’s amazing that scene even happened at all. 2 years ago, if you had a Six on the Galactica, the human guy on the other side of that door would not have thought twice about locking it & venting her cylon ass. In many ways it was a predictable Hollywood type scene, but it had an unforeseen twist to the dichotomy itself.
Sorry in advance if I offend anyone.
OK, so this is a little twisted but every time I see a body vented out the airlock or in this last episode’s case just flying out a crack in the hull, for a split second my imagination sees this Raptor with a big baseball glove just off frame catching the bodies.
Second, I wonder how long the bodies have to thaw out before they can lay their arms and legs out flat for the memorial services… you don’t see to many flags draped over bodies that were in the original positions they had when they flew out the airlock.
A quick thought about the Opera House vision…
In a previous post, I theorized that the 8 in the vision might be Boomer, not Athena, and therefore representing Cavil’s Cylon nation. Roslin in this vision represents the colonials, as well as the rebel Cylons. We see Hera run into the arms of a 6, accompanied by Baltar.
But what if the 6 and the Baltar of this vision, are actually Head6 and HeadBaltar? The ‘angels’ that Anders spoke of that appeared to the cylon before Erf got nuked? Could they, then, represent the Divine? The OneTrueGod, or the Gods of Kobol?
If so, then in this vision of Hera running to and being embraced by the divine seems to indicate that she’s an agent of the divine, not the cylon or colonials. The mind boggles…
I don’t think they freeze. Space is a vacuum, and a vacuum is an excellent insulator (that’s the idea behind a thermos, after all.)
Head Baltar might be possible, but since Caprica Six claimed to share the vision with Roslin and Athena, I’m pretty sure that’s her and not Head Six in the Opera House. What I don’t understand is why it seems that Roslin and Athena have to save the girl from Caprica 6 and Baltar, when it would appear that the whole lot of them are ganging up to save her from Cavil. Maybe Roslin and Athena have to allow Caprica and Baltar to protect Hera? Athena’s a pretty obsessive mother (though, given recent events, how could you blame her), and Roslin has been an obsessive mother/authority figure to the whole fleet. Perhaps the vision is telling them to back down and let destiny take over.