Glee

According to the people who make the show, Santana did the opening. I, too, thought it was Quinn.

oh wow… i totally couldn’t tell.

by the way, is it just me or is Glee’s version of Toucha toucha toucha touch me better than the movie version?

that song hass been stuck in my head for a whole fraking week…

toucha toucha toucha toucha me~

i guess i am the straight guy who loves Glee that Stephen and Jon were singing about… cause I’m the only one still on this thread…

I went back and watched Rachel singing “The Only Exception” and noticed something I didn’t see the first time. When Rachel was reaching the most powerful “you are my only exception” line, a tear came rolling down her face.

i am pretty impressed with Lea Michele’s acting… she and Kurt (Chris Colfer?) really shines in the show.

I love Rocky Horror, but wasn’t a huge fan of the episode, except for that Toucha number between Emma and Shue. I’m loving watching Emma expand her horizons and grow. The sexual tension was perfectly done. I like the songs and numbers to advance character development, not just be flashy music videos.

yeah, characters should always be the core of the story, that’s what made Glee. Reproductions of Star of the Week’s previous MVs is not as interesting. I really hope they find a better way to incorporate future guest stars.

But at least the Ricky Horror show episode didn’t have any of that. It was more about theatre and doesn’t feel like music videos at all.

I find myself enjoying the Rocky Horror episode a lot more than most people on the forum. I find the episode says a lot more than what it seems on the surface, especially as a commentary on the TV censorship.

Oh well… at least everyone enjoyed the songs.

That ep really nailed home what turned me off of Glee from a plot standpoint: the continued many crises of Will Schuester. He should be the facilitator of the plots, not the focus of them. Andhis constant and consistently lame attempts to woo the girl and claim some of his own spotlight hurts the show. Focus on the kids.

actually the best Glee episodes are those where Schue’s stories echo the kids stories. Or at least those episodes where the tension comes from kid/grownup relationship. That is the theme in the pilot and it is still true i think. When the story focus only on the kids or only on Schue it suffers.

As for the Rocky Horror episode, there’s story on both sides, but they didn’t echo each other, except for the fact that both the kids male body image plot and Schue trying to air the rocky horror show through the censorship of Sue are both commentaries on social values.

the weak part is what drove Shue to put on the show in the first place. But with Stamos in there, there will be more episodes of Shue dealing with the fact that the woman he loves is with someone else, and this time, someone much more awesome than he is.

I do appreciate the Stamos plays a graet guy while Schue has to deal with the fact that he’s not the best guy for her at this point. I don’t dislike the echoing plots or hsi conflict; I hate when some plots center on his own narcissism or personal need for success, even if it comes at cost of the kids. I liked Will early on in the show, and lately I don’t care for him much.

I did like the plot about him going up against NPH. That was awesome.

that i can understand. though Schue’s likability isn’t the same as Glee’s likability for me. I think they are going in a direction to make every characters more dimensional. It’s a trend started since the introduction of Sue’s sister.

Sue and Quinn are less and less straight off evil, though when they get the chance they are still their old selves. Rachel is becoming a bit more considerate now she has Finn. Finn isn’t always the considerate person himself, sometimes he prays to grilled cheesus for self-serving purposes even though someone he claims he cares about is in need of prayer.

And Schue, well, when things are not going his way, he grabs the lime light to feel better. It’s what prompted him to start the Glee club. It’s what prompted him to start the Acafellas. It isn’t entirely out of his character, it’s just thing time he is actually stepping over the need of the kids. Though the kids seem like they had fun, but that’s not the point.

In the end, it’s a Glee club where most of the member dreams of becoming famous. Most of them are some what narcissistic. Even Mercedes, who is incredibly nice and thoughtful compares to the rest of the group, is pretty diva-ish when it comes to her ability to sing. So it’s not hard to imagine Schue behaving that way. He was the star of the Glee club once, after all.

That said, I am not entirely sure if it is a good idea mixing characters up like this. When Roslin became really shady in BSG, I had a really tough time getting through the episodes. Because I feel like there is no one that I can cheer for left on the show.

I’ll have to see how Glee handles this. But I’ve always personally cheered for Kurt and Brittany… so… Schue becoming less like Mr. Perfect is fine… as long as he and Ema gets together.

Wilma!

Chuck and Sarah made it, damn it. why can’t you.

I don’t mind Will’s story. I think he looks weak sometimes because he was under the thumb of his wife for so long. He’s learning how to be a single man again, so in a way he’s discovering who he is just like his students are. There are bound to be mistakes along the way.

Stamos is brilliant casting and having his character be sticky sweet is the prefect foil for Will.

Character wise, the person I am so drained by is Rachel. I’d like to see the other women shine more and sing more (especially Mercedes).

Comments on this week’s GLEE?

I was thrilled to see Puck back. I was worried that there was a conflict with the actor and he was being written out. I loved the chemistry between him and Artie. I also appreciated the break from a Rachel-centric storyline. I’m starting to get a bit burnt out on Kurt though, I’d just like more balance between the characters, they’re all interesting in their own ways. But perhaps I’m not wanting to see Kurt because his story is so painful to watch. The mom in me wants him to feel better, but it’s never that simple.

Good episode, and I’m looking forward to next week, though it’s obvious Gwenyth Paltrow was cast to help promote her new movie where she plays a country western singer. That’s the kind of stuff that makes me crazy, I don’t like seeing GLEE used that way, but the network will do whatever it wants.

ok, so… the new episode of glee has no music video like stuff. it focused mostly on the kid and character developments. it has tough commentaries on social issues.

i did like Kurt decided to stop taking the abuse in strides. i liked he kind of found someone to like. i liked how the hockey player is in the closet and abuse kurt out of his own confusion and insecurities.

i did like Biest feeling hurt by what the kids thought was harmless fun. but i didn’t think what Schue did was appropriate.

  1. he did not have to tell her the truth. but i suppose even if he did not, Sue will.

  2. well… he did not have to kiss her. i didn’t get what that’s about. and if i was in her position, i wouldn’t have appreciated a pity kiss, not even when i found him attractive.

puck and artie story i did like. i also liked Sue’s victory celebration. that’s the classic Sue reasserting herself. all she cares about is her budget.

“if everyone just put out, we’d have a winning football team.” is an awesome line. that’s words to live by.

yet i didn’t enjoy it…

I am kind of confused after watching it. not because of any part of the story. but it felt like so much stuff crammed together.

it didn’t feel like glee even though it was hitting all the marks that people said they want more of. but i didn’t enjoy the songs, and light-hearted-ness is missing. it just doesn’t feel like the same show without those two elements.

just wonder what everyone else feels about this episode.

at least the network didn’t show the season one out of order, than only show the premiere after they’ve canceled Glee…

so… this is the saner, kinder Fox…

I missed Glee this week. The cable company revamped the DVr service and this week’s Glee didn’t record. I caught the last 15 minutes.

Singing In the Rain is one of my very favorite musicals and I have to say I didn’t care for the last number. The water on stage took me far too out of reality and I didn’t care for the mash-up. I like that Will stood up to Terri.

Since I only saw a tiny bit, what does everyone else think about the episode?

ok, this is my take. i’ve always been one of a few people who don’t mind the song performances get a bit surreal. but in this case, i think it’s a missed opportunity. when Gwyneth Paltrow said that’s have the class outside, one of the student said “but it’s raining”. they could have shot the last number outside, in the actually rain.

i also think that instead of a big number, that song could have been a solo, maybe a solo by Will, sing that song in the rain all alone, perhaps no one wanted to sing the song with him. Like what they’ve done with “hold your hand” song, they could have turned the song into a bit of a melancholy. Or if they don’t want to go that dark, maybe Gwyneth can join in at the end and make it a duet.

The version they did I thought was pretty clever. I never liked the umbrella song to begin with, but I like what they did with the chorus from the singing in the rain. Still, I’d rather they not go that route, because we’ve already have other big fantastic numbers in this episode.

That said, Make 'Em Laugh was great. It reminded me the pure joy i felt when i watched Singing in the Rain.

I get that there’s a lot of pressure from audience demanding a more contemporary songs, but i think the show runners have to do what they love, because that’s when it really comes out. So what if the songs are old, were they not selling like hot cakes on itunes?

I still am fairly positive on Glee. They have had some missteps…the whole Biest subplot about everyone thinking about her to cool off didn’t sit right with me. Someone’s comment in this thread has also stuck with me: it is hard to rationalize the fact they are under such budget constraints yet have crazy sets costumes and lighting (and an inside rainstorm for Singing in the Rain? Really?)

Objectively I see the show struggling a little bit. They are self aware enough to even wink at this struggle in the show. Kurt’s recent line to Mr. Shue about having the boy’s v. girl’s competition nailed it, “We did this already, it is getting stale” They know that the framework of their show has serious constraints: it is another school year where they have the same goal of going to regionals and then to nationals. It is hard to find new ground there without the audience feeling a serious sense of deja vu.

So they are trying to mix it up. They are trying to make Mr. Shue less perfect and that has led to many of the problems as he is the emotional center of the show. You make him a d-bag and everything else suddenly feels off. They discovered a surefire ratings booster in doing their theme shows (Madonna and Brittney episodes being their highest rated) but know that is an easy trap to fall into. The Rocky Horror episode which I enjoyed is cited as being their low point this season as being fundamentally ridiculous that a high school would even consider performing that show. My response: it was their Halloween episode, get over it.

While the show has lost some edge it continues to be clever and have heart. I personally wish they would do more interpretations of songs than simply covering them (however, I did not like Singin’ in the Rain…but that is for another post). It is still one of the best shows on television and I still greatly look forward to it every week.

Ridiculous theatrics aside, I actually daresay I LIKED this week’s episode. I’m very cynical about Glee, but I thought Paltrow was wonderful (also cynical about her as ana ctress), and getting Schue out of the limelight for a week did wonders for me. I also liked Sue’s push for healthy food. That’s a very real issue that they were able to treat lightly while still putting that thought out there. I remember lunch in high school, when I bought it, usually boiled down to a taco bell brand burrito and cheesy potato wedges.

What kind of country feeds that to its children on a daily basis?

great points.

I really enjoyed the Rocky Horror episode. I think it is still the best episode this season.

It had amazing singing performances. Wonderful character development. Tackled two social issues. The male body image (which is pretty much pretended not being an issue), and the censorship of the arts. And the more people attack that episode because “a high school would never consider performing that show”, the more biting the points they made in the show are.

It also made fun at the expense of the TV censorship that was meddling with the production of the episode. How they are all concerned about the arts pushing some boundaries, but have no regards of how they spin and fabricate their news.

If that’s not a successful social commentary, i don’t know what is. I can understand why people get annoyed by the big production, but for that episode, there’s a likely explanation for it (however the singing in the rain episode does not).

anyway, I am probably still one of the few who enjoyed that episode.

I somehow neglected to mention the song that I cannot stop listening to…perhaps my favorite Glee song evah:

Kurt’s Teenage Dream