A Game of Thrones (HBO)

As far as I can remember there was a female bastard of Robert in the Eyrie who accompanied Cat and her gang up there.
But I thing there are so many there could be another one mentioned by name.

I think you’re thinking of Edric Storm, an acknowledged bastard of Robert Baratheon, who is at Storms End with Cortnay Penrose.

Yes! Thank you! I read the books so quickly that I really need to reread them. The TV show doesn’t really need more than one bastard of Robert’s alive, unless, in later books Edric Storm really becomes important. With dragons about, I’m not too worried that will be an issue.

Renly left one of Robert’s bastards at Storm’s End with the castellan which was when Melisandre first used the Shadowbaby to kill someone in the book and they did leave that out of the show.

There is a bastard of Robert’s in the Eyrie, but there was also one in Storm’s End that Renly left behind. Mya Stone is in the Eyrie, I think she’s actually his oldest bastard b/c he fathered her while he was John Arryn’s ward and Edric Storm was in Storm’s End. Edric is the only one Robert acknowledged because he was the child of Stannis’ wife’s sister from a tryst at Stannis’ wedding.

While I do love the show on HBO, I’m getting more disconcerted every week with the things I notice they are leaving out. For instance the complete absence of the Tully men. The Blackfish and Edmure not being on the show yet is very worrying since they both play important parts in other main character’s story lines later on. The Blackfish has his shining moment in AFfC and without Edmure who is going to marry the Frey girl at the Red Wedding? They seem to be leaving out things that are actually fairly important to later plot lines in favor of showing completely unimportant hookers in Littlefingers scenes just for the titillation factor.

I was thinking the same thing about the Houses of the Undying, except that’s probably not as important. Still, I think the writing staff on GoT is pretty bananas, so I’ll follow them anywhere. Also, hey, Joffrey got slapped again this week. That’s good, right? :wink:

I think partly it is to do with some hesitation in throwing even more new characters and houses into a season already filled with a lot of new locales and new characters. But I do agree to a certain degree, for e.g. that scene with Littlefinger and Roz was pretty pointless and only reiterated what we already know about Littlefinger, the precious minutes of which I would have liked seen spent elsewhere. I’m still kind of confused as to why they’re giving littlefinger seemingly more airtime than necessary though. I love Carcetti as much as the next guy, so kudos for the actor, but, idk, it’s odd. But anyway, I’m actually more troubled with the Dragonstone peeps in terms of airtime more than anything else. Purely from just the show itself, I probably wouldn’t be invested at all in that branch of plots over at Dragonstone, which hopefully they’d do a better job in the next few eps before the battle. They’re lacking a POV I feel like people can invest in over at that area, which was primarily the whole point of Davos really for book 2 (seeing as Stannis is not exactly a teddy bear, and Melisandre is interesting, but not a POV you’d latch on as trusting) - to have that POV where it’s a guy who’s honorable and likable and you care about in that part of the story. But I don’t think the show really invested enough time on Davos for him to be that POV person. IDK. I would wonder if someone who doesn’t read the books feel that way.

But, anyway, Tullys. If the specs are right that AFfC will be split up into two seasons, then there’s probably enough room in season 3 to properly introduce and explain (book 3 spoilers) [spoiler] the Tullys and all that before the RW in season 4. It’s not optimal, but I can see why they have to leave that out… because 10 episodes is 10 episodes. And the RW is still 2 seasons away it’s not crucial to need to introduce that big branch of SLs and characters in right now, even though it would be cool if they did. [/spoiler]

Anyway, I need help too in refreshing my memory. (spoilers for book 2 ahead)
[spoiler]When I read the book, I remember distinctly doubling back over the chapter where apparently Theon killed Bran and Rickon and had their heads up on sticks, because I was like, WHUT. THE. HELL. GEORGE. MARTIN. When did this happen? What? No way. And while I was pretty confident they didn’t just die - seeing as we didn’t even get a scene about their deaths - it was only later on that the book reveals their escape, and that they’re fine. Am I just remembering the sequence of events from the books wrong? Because if not, then I think the show missed a golden opportunity to fuck with the viewers there by having revealed to us their escape now. Would have made one hell of an ending to an episode too. [/spoiler]

Anyway, good episode. I find myself enjoying the Tywin/Arya scenes a lot because they managed to bring some warmth to Tywin’s character, moreso than the books at least. It’s a good contrast that will surely reap its rewards in season 3 and 4.

Anytime Joffrey gets slapped is alright by me, add in getting pegged in the face with a cow pattie and it was brilliant. I can’t believe the writers on the show have actually made me hate him more than I already did. I am really hoping they don’t leave out Dany’s trip through the House of the Undying because that was my favorite part of book 2 and it’s got such great foreshadowing for future events, especially the Red Wedding, I’d love to see it on screen.

I’m pretty certain they’ll have the House of the Undying scenes in the next episode. The whole bit about the dragons being stolen seem to be exactly for that reason. How they’d do it though, and how much of it we’d actually see, though, is the question.

yay, can’t wait for the youtube vids that will surely crop up today with the slaps.

I was pretty sure after seeing the scene about the dragons being stolen that we would get to see the House of the Undying, but I’m still hoping that we get it just in case that scene was leading somewhere else.

I can’t wait to see the montage of Joffrey slaps we have by the end, and I certainly wouldn’t mind watching him get hit in the face with manure over and over again either.

Just a note I think is important.

Recently read an interview with Dan Weiss, he went to great lengths to explain, they are doing an adaptation fo A Song of Ice and Fire, not a book a season. Whole chunks of story are & have been moved. They have also discussed the changes they have made from book to screen with GRRM to make sure what they are doing will still line up with the big events we know are coming. It’s confusing for the book reader but so far I have faith in what they’re doing & in the end we’ll get what we want & so far it’s been even better than i hoped it would be

I’m aware that it is an adaptation but some things they are leaving out at this point are far more important to the story than the random hooker scenes we get with Littlefinger in his brothels. Edmure and Brynden are more important than Roz since they created her completely. They’ve done a good job so far but some of the things they are leaving out are starting to worry me because of where I know things are going. Replacing Vargo Hoat with Tywin was a brilliant move but I won’t feel the same if Roose Bolton doesn’t take over Harrenhal next. A lot of the changes I haven’t minded but I do mind that it looks like Bran and Rickon won’t split up after leaving Winterfell since Meera and Jojen are no where to be found, especially since Rickon’s escape with Osha is a major thread in Davos’ plot line later on. And I really mind that neither of the elder Tully men have made an appearance yet, especially Edmure since his existence and marriage is a big factor in the plot against Robb. Now if some of these people were to start showing up in these next handful of episodes or if they could give a logical explanation for how the Northern Lords will know of Rickon’s survival later on and how Bran knows to head north to find the 3 eyed crow I wouldn’t worry so much, but leaving out Edmure or having a logical reason at this point for Bran to know to seek out the 3 eyed crow is a pretty big misstep in some important plots for later on.

I’ve never been shy about hiding the fact that I think Bennioff and Weiss are doing a better job with the material than Martin has. They have yet to disappoint (unlike Martin. I don’t think I’ll ever forgive him for A Feast for Crows.)

EDIT: I hope I’m not being too negative. I feel like I’m ruining the vibe around here by harping on and on about this. :o

Yeah, I miss Jojen and Meera too.

Think about GoT and aSoIaF as two works of art using the same source material. One is a historical novel and the other a docudrama on some made up history. I think that helps. Although I’d be surprised if all of these elements that come into play in the big story later on are left off completely. We’re just not seeing them in the right order.

I agree Armando, I also think some of this stuff they are delaying & will come into play later so they can complete the storylines they currently have running for this season. Red Wedding isn’t until season 4 by my guestimation so I don’t think they’ll start the real groundwork for that until season 3.

Not a video, but it has begun!!

Really? I would think that’d be the season 3 finale, with the second half of aSoS making up season 4. (I am not looking forward to seeing it, no matter when they do it, though.)

Notice his hand didn’t fall off! heh heh

Yeah, really. There’s a lot of things they hav eto accomplish. There’s also the beginnings of the groundwork for it but nothing significant in the current storylines.But I have been wrong before. And if things hold true, it won’t be a finale it will be episode 9 with episode 10 set up for the next season.