A Game of Thrones (HBO)

Is it me, or was last night’s episode (“A Man Without Honor”) kind of “meh”?

For me it felt like the calm before the storm and had some slow dragging bit, but I enjoyed other scenes a lot like North of the Wall or at Harrenhal cause the actors do such a fantastic job.

Has to be expected when trying to condense so much intensity among numerous interactions and locations, and still drive the crucial plot elements. I haven’t see S02E07 yet (will watch tonight during the rewatch frak), but if it allows me to catch up a bit and really get a firmer grasp of what the heck is going on in certain situations, having not yet read the books, I’m okay with a “breather” or “laying foundation” episode for things to come.

Also I’m pretty sure they are saving some cash. They’ll have need of it soon, but I don’t think its wise for me to elaborate on that.

And we just passed the zenith of the biggest hill on this roller coaster…hang on folks it’s gonna get hairy from here on out

I have a general question regarding Robert’s rebellion that perhaps need the folks who read the books to help me clear it up.

The mad king and Targaryens kidnapped Ned’s sister, killed his brother and father and Cat’s brother in law. So why is it that Robert was leading the rebellion? I mean sure he loved Ned’s sister, but Ned has more the reason to start the rebellion or lead the army?

Correct me if I’m wrong but Robert and Ned were under the care of Jon Arryn when all that went down so they all led the rebellion together. Also Robert was betrothed to Ned’s sister.

Also just looked it up: "After all the rebels were united, it was decided they would stand behind Robert, whose grandmother had been the daughter of King Aegon V Targaryen, giving him the best claim to the throne outside of Aerys, his children and grandchildren. "

I actually loved the episode for 3 reasons. The first being all the scenes with Arya and Tywin because that is the absolute best change they made in the jump from the book to the small screen. The second was Dany telling off Jorah in the scene before they discovered who had stolen her dragons and why because the writers of the show have made her a bit better at playing the game of thrones at this point than GRRM did in the book. Dany doesn’t seem to be blindly trusting Jorah like she was in the books and of course the third reason would be that Ygritte finally said “You know nothing Jon Snow.”

Really it should have been Jon Arryn leading the rebellion because he is the one who called his banners when the Mad King demanded Jon Arryn turn over Ned and Robert over after he had murdered Ned’s father and brother. Rhaegar had run off to the Tower of Joy with Lyanna which leads to her death and why Robert has such a hatred for Targaryen’s. Robert ended up being the one to lead the rebellion and actually take the throne because he was actually related to the Targaryen line which neither Jon nor Ned could claim so those rebelling could at least say that Robert had a somewhat legitimate claim to the throne once Rhaegar and the King were dead.

Can someone help me out? I don’t understand what happened there at Castle Winterfell there at the end of the episode (my you i’ve not read the books, and I don’t care about book spoilers)

Theon took two children that were not Bran and Rickon and burned their bodies beyond recognition to present to the people of Winterfell as the bodies of Bran and Rickon so now the people and soon nearly everyone else in the Seven Kingdoms will think the two youngest Stark boys are dead.

Uh if you say so, they found Rickons chestnuts. It’s clearly them.

If they would really close up that storyline that way? :smiley: Looks like GRRM won’t have to write anything for Bran in the next book. lol
Still stupid of them to leave the nuts there.

Theon & pals went out hunting for Bran and the other kid (Rickon?), and Theon was was effin’ pissed, and they brought back a couple burnt bodies, to show that Prince Theon is not one to trifle with.

In the book, it wasn’t burned bodies; it was heads covered in tar.

Ah. Got it. I wonder if we as an audience are meant to be not be sure?

Don’t listen in this instance to DP!

They tried to make it unambiguous. But think about it, if Theon really would have liked to show the people of Winterfell that he caught and killed him, he wouldn’t have burned them beyond recognition. A few episodes the story about the two orphan boys wasn’t included because they had a few minutes of screen time to spare. :rolleyes:

Well, yes, all right. :slight_smile:

If Ygritte says “You know nothing Jon Snow” in the show as much as she does in the books it will make the start of a great drinking game that will be guaranteed to someone wasted.

There’s a pretty good drinking game already! We can just add it to the list!

Or, you go by Keir’s rules & just drink with Tyrion

That is a good one, I was thinking more along the lines of one similar to the one Ted’s student’s started about Robin saying " but um" on How I Met Your Mother since Ygritte says that phrase a lot.