Yah, I know what you mean. It’s probably not Kobol.
The show takes place in the distant past, and the planet they eventually settle will be our Earth.
Ok, it’s 7:13pm L.A. time… so hopefully I’ll post this before somebody makes another post from the East Coast saying, “Yeah! So and So was right!” Also, some of these ideas are not original, gleaned from other GWCers… but I like and agree with em, so I’m putting em in:
– The Cycle will not be broken, whatever it is. The Cycle can no more be broken than our cycle of life and death, death being the important bit. Hybrid Anders pretty much said so.
– Everybody has some Cylon DNA, and I think most of the characters have lived before in a previous cycle. Each character in each new Cycle has a different role to play than in the previous cycle… I think we may see some kind of scene which will show the previous cycle, and it will be the world of BSG:TOS… different people with the same names, and playing different roles.
– Starbuck is the first Hylon (I like that in today’s LA Times (print edition, which I still have delivered, thank you very much)), she keeps saying that she is not a Cylon, which would be a technically true but deceptive answer). She is the Harbinger of Death, not in the sense that everybody’s gonna die, or she’s supposed to kill anybody in particular, but that her role is to facilitate the end of the Cycle and the start of a new one. “You will lead them all to their end” means everybody’s end – human, cylon, hylon, FF, everybody.
– Starbuck was also resurrected by Cavil.
– The Head Characters are behind the scenes, encouraging and guiding our main characters. They are the (undownloaded?) conciousnesses of the Lords of Kobol, and it’s their Plan. I was thinking that there is some kind of “datastream” or second Hub, but I’m not so sure of this anymore… I like the idea (Radio Picon’s) that they might be bits of programming in their DNA… maybe it’s similar to a computer: for instance, in Starbuck, the Head Character Leoben (and Dad) is Windows, and Starbuck’s conciousness is the program that runs on Windows. Starbuck has a certain amount of freewill, but the OS can come in at any time in the form of a Head Character and go, “Do this.” I think this goes for all the major characters.
– Erf is Erf. The new Cycle will begin on Earth, when they find it.
– Anders is going to jump the ship (damn! it’s 7:45PM – I swear, I have NO idea what’s up until 10pm PST) to the Colony, maybe before Adama gets the chance to evacute… I think Anders will use Galactica to destroy the Colony, and he, Adama and Roslin will go down with the ship.
– I also think Baltar died in the blast on Caprica. His memory was erased, and was downloaded quickly into a new body by Cavil, and was next seen running merrily through the meadows to Boomer and Helo’s Raptor.
That’s all I can think of for now… now, I sign off, and hope I don’t see any spoilerage (it being 7:53pm)… see you all on the other side.
Agreed… except those long forgotten Guardians get my vote for the Kara Part Deux.
Ok BDH, I pretty much agree with all the above.
It’s 9:15pm here out west not long to wait now.
The first hour will be the battle and some form of truce. Then RDM will jump 1000k into the future and we’ll see the cycle starting again on Caprica.
Lee will get a haircut.
Well… wrong about that one… so far, anyway. Oh well.
Ok, that’s cool… but we don’t have much time left to finish the story. To me, it’s like chess: We’re in the endgame, and it’s too late to introduce any new pieces… We’re left with what is on the board: the Fleet, Cavil, the Colony, and the Head Characters. It’s too late to introduce any new factions to the story without it being considered to be some kinda Deus Ex Machina, which is why I think (post-Islanded, and no frakin answers post-Daybreak Part 1) that Cavil resurrected Starbuck. The famous line from Sherlock Holmes says, ““Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” So: Cavil resurrected Starbuck. I could be wrong, but that’s what I’m going with.
‘Course, the pawn always has the potential to become a queen, but still: where else could Kara’s spakin’ new Viper have come from? Some other as-yet-unnamed-faction-with-one-frakin-episode-left? Or Cavil?
Rain’s in the House! Let’s hear it for the West Coast [Arsenio Hall] Woof! Woof! Woof! Woof! [/Arsenio Hall]… forever destined to be fashionably late to the party.
My whole brain is in swirly mode at the moment and there are so many theories floating around in there.
I think that there’s going to be some kind of time distortion involved with this singularity sitting right next to the Cylon basestar. I think that Anders and Starbuck will stay together – she’s not going to abandon him again and he seems to be a permanent fixture in the ship now – and they are going to take Galactica through that singularity, possibly after everyone else has abandoned ship.
The mandala looks like a singularity to me and was significant both in the death of Starbuck 1.0 and, possibly, the resurrection of Starbuck 2.0.
Of course, one theory might be that there might be a mysterious desert island through there and Starbuck is resurrected by the Dharma project ;-). However, I think that whatever is in that singularity enables Starbuck to acquire a brand new old style Viper and return to a point in the past (in the series timeline).
How ‘All Along the Watertower’ and Starbuck’s father fit in confounds me at the moment. The one thing I do think is that Cavil is not involved in this bit – there’s a greater power involved. Lords of Kobol??? Daniel??? Hera??? Hopefully the truth WILL be revealed!
IMO, I think that is the whole missing puzzle piece. I think David is Kara’s father and the war from the start has been between Cavil and David (Cain and Abel). During the process of killing David, Cavil did something to him. Changed him in someway which could relate to the singularity giving David godlike (another plane of existence) abilities, Head characters and so forth.
As far as the Lords of Kobol, I think their story happened 4000 years ago and won’t be hashed out here. But you never know, perhaps David accessed them in his transition. That’s my speculative banter anyhow.
Interesting… maybe some of the answers regarding Starbuck involve the singularity, too… Although I’ve made arguements for Cavil resurrecting Starbuck, I’ve never liked the arguement… I’ve just not thought of an explaination that I like better. And it’s not just a singularity, it’s a naked singularity, a theoretical type of black hole sans event horizon that can actually be observed… I like the time travel element, although I didn’t think of it before… maybe some part of ending/completing the Cycle involves time travel?
Gods, I hope so.
They’re going back to Kobol. I think that once they wipe each other out they’ll settle on Kobol. I support this theory with the secret of the opera house is that it’s on Kobol and will be rebuilt once what’s left of Humanity and skinjobs settle there.
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That would totaly support the whole “all of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again” thing.
They go back to Kobol. Start all over. 13 colonies, they get kicked out, “cylons” go to earth, “humans” go make the 12 colonies. Cause the radiation will probably be gone and that would mean that everyone is right about the humans and cylons all being one race now. Except you think that someone would have realized that by now, like Cottle.
Hate to ruin it for all you Starbuck/Lee fans, but no way they end up together. They’ve had so many chances and they just keep blowing it. “All of this has happened before, and all of this will happen again”
Very sad, but I think you’re right.
that sucks donkey balls indeed - but it’s probably true
Awh man, that was not an image my poor brain needed. 
The Galactica and Cavil’s Baseship end up going into the black hole. Where they meet Kara’s father, who is grown up Daniel, playing that song on a piano.
For what it’s worth, here are my predictions. And yes, I’m aware that some of them contractict each other!
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An Opera House like the one on Kobol will be shown, but it’ll be one on a planet other than Kobol or a time that’s significantly before or after the time of the main BSG story.
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Cavil is killed by either Ellen, one of the sixes, or one of the eights.
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Starbuck and Baltar are both 100% human but were downloaded to new bodies at some point using Cylon resurrection technology.
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The Galactica falls into the singularity near the Cylon colony and both Adama and Roslin go down with the ship.
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There’s at least one more flashback to Caprica before its fall and one to Erf before its fall involving one of the Final Five.
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There’s a scene reenacting the Opera House vision similar to the one in “Guess What’s coming to dinner?”
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Hybrid Anders gets to jump the Galactica or partially control it in some other way
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The significance of the Final Four/Watchtower theme is that it encodes coordinates or physics equations that point the way to the real Earth, not “Erf”.
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There are two distinct higher powers revealed, one of which is behind Head Six, Head Baltar, and the Opera House visions. The other of whom is behind resurrecting Kara and activating the Final Four/Five.
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There will be at least one flashforward scene, or at least a scene in the far future relative to the time of Daybreak part 1.
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Boomer somehow redeems herself by doing something not evil (like helping to rescue Hera from the ones, fours, and fives)
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By some miracle, Roslin doesn’t die. Yes, I know this is a really long shot, but sometimes you have to roll the hard six!
If anyone can “roll the hard six”, Roslin can.
Regarding 3: For all I know you’re right and I’m wrong. It just seems that even if Daniel is Starbuck’s father, there’s going to need to be some sort of higher power involved to explain both Starbuck seeing her dad, Baltar seeing a head six, and Caprica Six seeing a head Baltar.
Regarding 9: My guess (and this is really just an educated guess) is that the Cylon God or “One True God” is the one guiding Baltar and Caprica Six and who wants them to raise Hera to start the next cycle. Some subset of the Lords of Kobol could then be using the Watchtower music to guide the Final Five and Starbuck in an effort to break the cycle and by doing so save humanity and bring the “One True God” back down to their level.
I have many expectations for the final episode. I don’t mean to be a douche about it, but I’ve loyally followed this show and bought merchandise and I want certain questions answered and if they don’t get answered it wont be because they were too obscure. I’m not asking about minutia, I only want the big questions answered (all seven or eight of them) and if I don’t get the answer I’m gonna be pissed.