I’ll admit it, BSG was my first REAL Sci Fi show.
I’ve seen some reruns of Next Gen and a few of TOS.
But I know basicly craaap about the world of Trek.
While hearing what Chuck and Sean and Adura have had to say about TOS I really DO plan on picking up the DVD’s at some point.
So I’m asking the older members of the hive mind this time, What do I need to know?
From what I’m hearing, not much. It’s a different timeline, so knowing less is probably better at this point.
And this is where I try and provoke the fanboys
Are you happy about that fact?
IMO, it is what it is. Since it’s a different timeline, I’m treating it like its just another sci-fi thrill ride. It just happens to share the name Star Trek. Sure I would have liked for them to carry on the story. Go with a DS9 movie or something new and further into the future but they decided to go back.
The film looks like fun. I’m not gonna get my “spankies” (see the podcast #160 thread) in a bunch about it.
was hoping for more of a reacton 
Aww comeon Talos don’t be like that…
sighs
Fine. You want it. Here it comes.
Is there nothing sacred anymore? Has Hollywood just run outta ideas? “Let’s just remake everything that’s already been done.” But don’t even get me started on that. Let’s just focus on Star Trek.
When I first heard there was gonna be another Star Trek film, I was stoked! Then I heard what it was gonna be about and I was like, Whut!?! Sure, go right ahead and piss all over my first love. Oh let’s redo a classic cheesy show and make it modern. Where have I heard that before? To me it was just another case of profiting off of others work. It was originally sold as Star Trek fans writing a Star Trek movie, pay homage and craaap. Then you hear JJ hardly saw the show. Frak the Whut!?!
So, in the end, it’s been an interesting lead up to the new film. My present state is what I mentioned earlier but you wanted to hear. So you have.
I would go on but there is a frak party I don’t want to be late for.
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
You know, frak this anticaps filter thingy. Publicly.
Thank you Talos. I really mean it. I wanted to hear it from you and the others what your thoughts about the movie were.
Sorry if I pissed you off. :o
LOL!! What about you Pike? Do you agree with Talos or are you more like Chuck?
I think Chuck is much closer to his happy place than I.
That said, I think it could be done right (and I’m hearing a bunch of people saying it was done right.) On the other hand, it could be Enterprise.
In line with what Talos said: there are a whole bunch of fanfilms out there that have shown more creativity in revisiting (Exeter, New Voyages) and extending (Hidden Frontiers, Intrepid) the franchise than Hollywood has shown in the past ten-odd years.
So, I’m hopeful, yet pessimistic.
Kirk - leader, but never follows the rules
McCoy - country doctor
Spock - half human half vulcan science officer, first officer, dysfunctional family
Scotty - engenear and very good at his job time is relative
Uhura - communications officer
Sulu - helmsman
Checkov - navigator
The rest in the new movie could be anything.
You didn’t at all. Me just joking.
I used to be a rabid fanboy before. Then I tried creating what I thot I was capable of. Pipe dreams doesn’t even cover it. It’s a humbling experience.
whew
I really want to know how the TOSers feel about this movie mainly becasue I have recently put some money aside to buy the dvd’s…
I mean if the movie brings in a whole new generation of fan’s isn’t that a good thing?
That’s the big question.
One one hand, yes. Obviously.
OTOH, the core audience is NOT those people. Equally important: these people are potentionally your biggest promoters or detractors.
So, you have to walk a tightrope. Enterprise tried, and failed, to do just that.
I think this movie is meant to take fresh look at Star Trek. So in that sense, you really don’t neee to know anything going into the movie. It’s not a sequel to anything, so you don’t need any background.
Talos posted something some months back that stuck with me. He said that J.J. Abrahms is steping in and “re-inventing Star Trek for the cool kids”. “I’m Mr. ABC’s Lost guy and I’m a cool kid, and I know how to make Star Trek cool, and not nerdy and geeky.” (Those are my words paraphrase Talos’s thot). I share that feeling, and feel some resentment about it, because there’s an implication that Star Trek was flawed in some fundemetal way.
On the other hand, in some ways this is a natural place to do the next Trek movie. In other words, the idea of exploring the moment(s) when Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Scotty et all. first met.
Now they COULD have done that while at the same time picking some strand of background from the original Trek series…Kinda like they did with Star Trek Wrath of Khan. That movie was carrying on the gem of a plot from a Trek TV episode—there’s lots of events from Kirk’s past they could have centered on.
But instead I think Holywood said—“screw the tradional fans. We’ve got their ticket money anyway cuz they’ll see it regardless.” Let’s go after a new audience and drag the fans along too.
Oh well, I’m probably overthinking it. It looks like an exciting movie, and come hell or highwater I’m gonna see it on opening night. And I’m probably gonna enjoy it.
you can’t blame hoolywood for doing it. It worked for Transformers, and it was absolutey NOTHING like anything we had seen as kids Except the same guy did Prime’s voice. All the Fans went to see it, but so did the regular people as as well and it was a blockbuster. I don’t like that they do it with trek, but it’s a better bussiness decision than making the Sulu Captain movie (personaly I feel George isn’t a star grade actor, and Sulu is a boring character. But how do I know, he has never been given any character development.) or the DS9/Voyager/TNG movie.
anywho…
I am betting that the New Trek will be a reset… but the old stuff will remain cannon.
Here’s how.
Nero is going to have changed history… so the new Kirk, didn’t have exactly the same background as the one we grew up with. Time has been altered. This is a legitamate alternate reality.
Our Kirk’s adventure DID happen… then Nero changed the timeline and SOME of it will happen again… some of it won’t.
That is my explanation. In a month, sing my praises if I am right!
I say it will be what it is and yes I will see it. Just like the other ST it will be of its time. So the characters may change as expectations of our present culture.
I don’t think it’s terrible to re-invent a series in this way. I’ve tried to watch TOS and it’s difficult. I like the characters (the strongest point of TOS and TNG to me) just fine, though, so the idea of taking these characters and trying to give them new life is great. The new actors won’t be the old ones, but that’s okay, because this is a new take on it. And a forum built around RDM’s BSG really has to be careful to dog it out too hard considering it’s very origins.
I second that. Go in with an open mind and who knows you may like the movie. You should only hate it after you see it.
ummm …Uhura is hot…
yep that’s pretty much it
Honestly, not too much. I think if you watch the TOS dvds after the movie–it may be pretty cool for you…
true–and folks griped abotu Starbuck being a chick and that turned otu awesome—so go in with an open mind and ahve a blast