Yeah… it’s a little loose. This whole Sarah and John’s shared psychological trauma, it seems like it’s just dropped in there with no reason. I wonder if it was even originally planned, or they just came up with it at the last minute.
See, this show could go the way of The X-Files, in that the open-endedness of TV will turn it into a convoluted mess. They can’t go too fast, because if the show takes off they’ll have to backtrack and retcon over and over again until it dies a sad death. But if they go too slow, they run the risk of not resolving anything if Fox pulls the plug, as they are so wont to do. 
Yeah, man. This entire series… it seems like a collection of beautifully shot 2~3 minute cut scenes that are clumsily put together into episodes. I like the action, and I get with the basic premise, but the overall flow of the plot line… I’m really not feeling it at all.
Sad but true. I had such high hopes – especially after Fox didn’t kill it early.
Yeah, that’s probably true. But the whole psychological aspect of Sarah and John… it felt like the writers told each other:
“viewers are saying Sarah and John’s characters are one-dimensional and even more robotic than the terminators! Crap! We gotta give these two characters some depth, motivation! Come on, people… Give me something, give me anything… secret love, hidden longings, shared trauma… anything! Hurry, we’re shooting in 2 hours!”
And voila, we have a re-write.
Well, it got picked up for two seasons, so let’s hope that it gets better with time. Like wine. Or pickles. Yeah, let’s go with pickles.
The great failure of marketing over creative concerns.
Have you ever had an old pickle? I’d rather drink a car battery like a sixpack. :eek:
Once again, y’all. Well put.
Oh, I didn’t mean a jar of deli pickles, more like chutney, I guess.
AAAAAAnyway…
Another question… Kathy Griffin Terminator, what was her point in this episode? She got sent back by the machines, not humans, right? To kill or protect the shrink?
Maybe to kill John…?
You know, now that I think about it, this episode does answer a lot of questions…
Yeah… I don’t know, dude. It seems like in the future, both people and machines can just simply look back in the past and realize that “oh yeah, John Conner in the past, he used to hang out with Brian Austin Green, psycho shotgun-wielding mom, and River Tams Terminator who’s in love with him. We better send a whole bunch of people if we’re gonna kill him.”
Another random thought. Remember in the pilot, Cromartie was a different dude, then he rebuilt himself by obtaining and re-machining all the parts, and then gave himself a new skin, different from the original Cromartie the substitute teacher skin? This could be the best little plot device for the series… This allows them to keep the character and replace the actor, a la Doctor Who! And Shirley Manson Terminator already is a shape shifter… This series could be completely recast mid-season, and no one will even bat an eye!
If I am sending someone back to recruit Woz to help with building of the Skynet AI, then Kathy Griffin would not be at the top of the list.
okay, I had no idea the chick terminator in the elevator was a contortionist–I just thot it was sfx
What I don’t get is why the machines don’t just go back to the '50s or '60s, when Cold War paranoia was at its highest, and get Skynet going back then. Machines can afford to be patient, so it could have an entire army built for it and ready to go before John Connor was even conceived.
Another random thought. Remember in the pilot, Cromartie was a different dude, then he rebuilt himself by obtaining and re-machining all the parts, and then gave himself a new skin, different from the original Cromartie the substitute teacher skin? This could be the best little plot device for the series… This allows them to keep the character and replace the actor, a la Doctor Who! And Shirley Manson Terminator already is a shape shifter… This series could be completely recast mid-season, and no one will even bat an eye!
I’m not sure if that makes it better or worse.
Why not? They were dating for a while, apparently.
Certainly long enough to replace him with a T-1000. 
“… Summer being a more advanced model…”
Really? Hmm…
OK, now that was awesome. She needs to get more work. Imagine what she could do in alien makeup or some kind of supernatural critter…
Really. If I were Skynet, I’ll simply send a terminator back to kill the great great grandfather/grandmother of everyone of the resistance fighters. Long before guns were even invented, before anyone could even do a damn thing to stop a terminator. No resistance whatsoever, easy peasy.
You don’t even need a bunch of terminators… you can just keep sending the same one back. Very economic solution.
Of course, this leads to the “Are you Sarah Conner’s great, great grandmother? Come with me if you want to live” scenario.