Most Powerful Federation Enemy

What race, bad guy, or faction from the list can be the bigest threat to the Federation.

The Peter Principle is the Federation’s biggest threat. “In a hierarchy every employee tends to rise to his level of incompetence.”

Star Trek is full of commodores and admirals that give bad orders and get in the way of Kirk, Picard, and Sisko. Obviously, these are people who have been promoted to a level where they not only cannot do good, but actively end up doing BAD.

So the greatest threat to the UFP is the UFP?

Brilliant!

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you so much for not including that stupid-enemy-from-Star Trek-Enterprise-that-they-wasted-a-whole-season-on-but-I-forget-what-they’re-called.

Klingons ---- Became our …ah. the Federation’s friends eventually]

Romulans — Have too few planets and therefore not enough natural resources to kick our ass

The Founders ( and Jem Hadar) — These guys are tough motherfrakkers, but it’s hard to get all worked up about a villian that was in only one the Trek’s serieses

The Orions — No human male can resist a green Orion Slave Girl, but otherwise …meh.

Gorn — They are no match for our bamboo/sulfer/carbon canons with diamond bullets. Plus we have Frakkintalos to seduce them.

The TNG era Starfleet admirals — We now know that Admiral Naychaev is up so something…something sinster. But we’ll stick a pin in this one.

Khan with Genisis and a Ship that works — Once he serves his vengeance as a dish served cold, he’ll just quote some Milton and be done.

Mirror universe folks ( any of them) — Irrelevant. They’ve already shaved off their goatees and infiltrated us. They are us. We are them. You are them.

Slug monsters that take your body over and make you eat maggots —Too gross to win the hearts and minds of their subjects.

Baltar — Keep throwing hot babes at him and we’ll keep him off balance.

Kinziti … Not a lot of us have watched Star Trek the Animated Series

Lyrans/ Hydrans — Not many of us have played Star Fleet Battles and/or Federation Space.

Conclusion: The just leaves the Borg. The Borg have been the hardest to beat, and crossed over in different series-es, medias (books, movies, TV) and they aren’t open to negotiation.

I voted Borg.
… (and Finnegan. But finnegan is a pain).

hmm… no Q?

Have to go with The Dominion, but “Slug mosnsters that take your body over and make you eat maggots” are a close second because they were pretty unstopable and we never found out what happened to them. (At least on screen. There were some novels that continued their story.)
The Borg are also up there, but after the end of Voyager I don’t seem them as a huge threat.

I went with Baltar, and frankly I am not 100% joking. He did help with killing 15 billion people, and lived to tell the tale.

I as one can say I have done both and incorporated the Slavers into a FASA ST RPG Adventure.:smiley:

I’m still going between the Founders, and the Borg, and Baltar. Hm.

Organians.

Easy, peasy.

you know… other than the one other time it’s mentioned in TOS… Star Trek inc [aka the writers] forgot that the Organians inforced peace. They knew only us nerds even remembered that when they wrote St 3, 4, 5, and 6!

I you watch TOS… movies 3, 4, 5 and 6 should have all ended with god like being throwing the slap down on Klingons for their captains breaking ther rules.

( Kirk broke rules… but he never violated Klingon space in cannon)

Organians…they stop whole fleets…but threat? They think we’re icky-poo and dont want to even talk to us?

Borg…Best of Both worlds Borg, yeah. Those frakkers were not messing around. But after that…bad but nit samr level of scary…

Q? If they mad and organized…we’d be screwed. He just Dr Crusher into a dog cuz it was funny. snicker But they’re not, so…

Talovians? EVen though their heads look like giant boo-tays…there is still General Order 7 that says basically… Dont even THINK of going there. Ever. Not even if I dere you. Chicken? Bawk bawkbawkbawkbawkbawk. Or words to that effect.Talosian can pretty make you think you are anywhere, with anyone at any time.You open the door to your closet…oh look ypu just airlocked yourself. Sucks to be you. Still…threat? close. If they got mad, they might even be worse than Q. SO I think Talosian eek out Q by a hair.

Ah, The GF and I are just about to sit down to ST:III so I’ll have to get back to you on that.

The ‘treaty’ was a major drama-killer, but I loved how they worked around it in Trouble with Tribbles (even if the bar fight should have been ended abruptly) and Private War.

TOS was insanely disjointed, but they managed to craft a mythos that still stands today. I don’t think any of the subsequent series (possibly excepting DS9) has done the same.

Good points. Even the progressive Federation invokes a death penalty (usually) for visiting the place. I’m going to assume they have a handle on the danger.

beep beep

I think in ST:3 they might call it Orgainian treaty… but I think they just use the word treaty and leave “Organian” out of it. But I KNOW they never allude to the fact that godlike beings will whip ass if they dont abide by the treaty ever again after Erand of Mercy.

Got to go with, themselves

I mean they make their captains wear skirts. At state events. And thus was the only time captain kirk, looked into the sky and cursed god.

What? No Kazons? No Ferengi? Nor, the race that “make things go.” d:

Tough call between Borg and themselves. The Founders/Jem Hadar were defeated (so to speak), so I discount them. Borg lost many battles, but not the war…yet.

technically the founders were defeated by the prophets… the feds is just lucky that the prophets did it with a chef from New Orleans…

That was the Xindi, with a total of 5 subspecies. But they don’t really apply since the Federation had not yet been established.

Yeah, I could have done without the Xindi. And I suppose I forgot their name cuz they were forgettable.

So, now, okay…You guys are all WRONG, WRONG.
These guys are the biggest threat.
The Loquarians. They built the Doomsday devices (as first seen in the TOS ep “The Doomsday Machine”).

Shown here is a picture of their home base, called the Citadel of Loquar. located on the far side of the Milky Way Galaxy, but accessible through a stable wormhole in the Triangle that opens once ever 48.74 days.

As you can see, three of the Doomsday devices have already been launched.

BTW, don’t ask what book, episode, movie or fan fic this is from—I totally made it all up myownself. :smiley: