Um - so the seventh cylon’s name was Daniel - and one of the main characters from the new show Caprica is named Daniel Graystone…
Yeah and lots of theories out there now tying Daniel into possibly having a connection as or to Starbuck’s pianist Father.
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Only one problem is that Daniel Greystone is alive before the creation of cylons.
However, #7 could be named after the creator of the cylons…
Not the creation, but the re-creation of the Cylons, in Caprica. Note that thousands of years before, in Erf, the Cylons existed already, it’s a cycle.
So it could be that Daniel Graystone, somehow, is Erf’s Daniel, that came to Caprica faster than the other final five, maybe sent by Ellen to escape from Cavil’s wrath (this is starting to sound Star Wars)
I thought Ellen was no.7? What’s going on?
Unless no.6 is really a young version of Ellen?
[spoiler] Makes sense to me that the boxed Daniel will be Starbuck’s father. Would certainly explain a lot imo. [/spoiler]
But with the boxed 7, now there are thirteen- 8 skin jobs and 5 FF. Is my math right? Very confused, but loving it.
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Was anyone else besides me totally let down by this confusing cobbled-together episode?:mad:
Shoddy continuity, trick senseless plot devices, stupid explanations, must I go on?
The only interesting thing is the ship falling apart subplot which will be fixed by the Chief’s Cylon Basestar superglue, making the Galactica a hybrid itself.
The only thing I am waiting for is this:
What will Ellen say when she finds Saul shacked up with that sexy number 6 AND she is KNOCKED UP?[/b]
Can you say: “Cylon jealous catfight?”
I was - but not to the same extent as you were. There was a real sense of - hokey smokes, we’ve been fooling around with this mutiny thing and now wer’re almost out of time. So we need a narrator to cover in about 5 minutes the equivalent of 3 or 4 episodes of what should be one of the most important parts of the entire saga.
Do we know if Daniel is boxed or is Daniel dead. It does work if Daniel is really dead; originally 13 but now 12. Grandpa goo mentioned this in Razor, something about the seven, now six. So the math is really (8-1)+5=12.
Interesting that last night was Friday the 13th. Ok so maybe its not that interesting.
Agreed. I did enjoy the scenes with John and Ellen. That reveal unfolded with their personalities in tact. And we had Boomer in background giving them the ‘stare’.
But the reveal that unfolded with Anders was as I think you described it some place else… a data dump. Except for The Chief (and yes we can now call him Chief again), laughing about being madly in love with Tory their personalities were totally missing from the scenes. Where was Saul’s eye, how come Starbuck wasn’t screaming ‘what am I’. It was flat. It was hurry up and get this out there and we’ll use Anders getting ready to pass out as the excuse.
I loved IT! Answers, finally answers! :eek:
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The only thing I am waiting for is this:
What will Ellen say when she finds Saul shacked up with that sexy number 6 AND she is KNOCKED UP?[/B"]
Can you say: “Cylon jealous catfight?”
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Ron did promise us girl on girl during the writers strike.
It’s a lot to take in, but I liked it. RDM has never made a secret of the fact that he and the writers make it up as they go along, and so there was a lot of ground to cover, and perhaps, patch up. But they did what they do best, took some big gaping holes–like the missing number 7–and turned them into strong thematic pillars. The story of Daniel now becomes a BSG take on Cain and Abel, and shows us how disturbed John Cavil really is (and it might tell us more about Starbuck, too, if Daniel ends up being her father).
Yeah, it was an info dump. But sometimes you just need those. Best to get it over with and get things rolling again. BSG is more about how characters handle the information they receive, rather than the information itself anyway. In this episode we had “delicious” scenes between Kate Vernon and Dean Stockwell, and we saw Kara Thrace torn between her love and care for Sam and her desire to keep him awake just a little bit longer to find out more about herself. I drank it up.
It’s certainly loads less depressing that the Erf and Mutiny storylines, which I agree were getting me pretty down lately. But now that things are rocketing towards the finish, I’m on board, even if I’m not completely clear on everything yet. Who knows, maybe we’ll get that catfight after all?
(Hey, random thot: If John Cavil was modeled after Ellen’s father, maybe Number Six really IS based a bit on Ellen herself. Now THAT complicates things.)
I respect where you are coming from, but personally I loved this episode. I am just glad to finally be getting answers, and thus far, I have been very pleased with this season. I am glad they are tying up loose ends, cause I don’t want to see something like this at the end:
Here, here.
Daniel pre-genome messing:
Daniel post-genome messing:
Oh whatever ya’ll knew what I meant
Daniels dead.
The entire lines amniotic fluid was tampered with by Cavil.
…or so is what Ellen wants Cavil to believe…he has been fooled before
I don’t know, anything can happen at this point, and they seemed to really want Daniel to be a “strong” new character in the plot. Maybe Ellen managed to save a frozen embrio or something…