Perhaps not as mind-blowing as Season 3 final episode, these were nonetheless 2 rewarding hours of great television. We got a few answers (who’s in the coffin; why the Ocean 6 had to come up with a cover story) and were left with a few new ones (where and/or when did the island go? what’s Jin’s business with Widmore? what did Sawyer whisper to Kate? how did Locke die?)
Now we just have to wait until next January for Season 5 :eek:
Season 5 in Jan 
My thoughts were that they would be back in the fall, GREAT finale 
Lock, Jin OMG Aron’s got to go back, Kate’s dreamin about Clair, Clair’s demanding that she does not take Aron back. INDEED a great 2 hours of televison
At first I thought Michael was in the coffin but it makes more sense for it to be John.
I saw some similiarity between John and Baltar when John enters the Others camp. Such blind devotion is strange and difficult to fathom. The Others will follow John because he has been chosen by Jacob to lead. The Balcubines follow Baltar cuz they believe he has been chosen by the Cylon god.
EDIT: One other thing, every season they introduce a new faction. Looks like the one for Season 5 will be supernatural with all these dead people talking.
Are you insane? The tropical island with the sub-zero basement frakkin’ teleported! How much more mind-blowing can it get? :eek:
Um I somewhat agree I just have to say that the questions are what is sun’s business with widmore, and how did locke even get off the island and is it even Locke’s original self with the cloning factor from the orchid station. And I really think we already know what Sawyer said, “Please tell find my daughter and tell her I love her.”
I don’t know what Sun’s business is with Widmore, but I have a bad feeling that Jack is the second person she blames for Jin’s death. He hustled them off the boat, dragged Kate away from going after Jin, and five seconds after they lifted off, Jin comes storming out onto the deck (but just why did it seem to take him so frakking long to find his way up anyhow?). So I predict that Jack is gonna feel the burn of Sun’s building wrath next season.
I like frakkintalos’ theory that this year’s faction is the dead people. Maybe we’ll get to see a Danielle flashback after all.
Could be true about Sun’s anger brewing, but I think all six pooled their money to buy the controlling stock of her dad’s company. The money came from 5 different accounts. (Arron’s $ would either be in a trust or in Kate’s account.) If that’s the case, she’s at least working with Jack until she finishes whatever they’re doing with Pike Industries.
And it was nice to see Mr. Echo back. 
From a production standpoint, when you make a character crazy they can talk to anyone and you don’t even have to pay another actor. Very budget saavy!
I knew John was in the coffin last year at the end of Season 3. I love it when I’m right in LOST because that rarely ever happens. I think John leaving the island is enough to kill him, but things must have been horrific there for him to leave and ask the six to return. I agree that Sun is going to be a problem next season and I bet the island needs all six in unison for things to feng shui again.
Are we all agreed that the folks on the raft who were on their way to the ship are now lost/dead and didn’t move with the island?
Overall, I agree that this wasn’t as big of a finish as last season. We knew two weeks ago the island was going to be moved. I did think it was cool how it vanished before their eyes though. No wonder poor Hurley is so frakked up.
It could really go either way.
I love the shot of blondey and Sawyer on the beach when the island whites out.
That’s funny because John being in the coffin was my first thought in last year’s season finale, but throughout the season the convinced me otherwise. I inadvertently stumbled on the answer earlier in the show as I was trying to figure out who “Jeremy Bentham” was. My wife said she thought the name sounded familiar, and I said, “Yeah he’s and English philosopher. It wouldn’t be the first time they’d used real names in the series. There’s also John Locke.” Those wily writers…
Another parallel between Jeremy Bentham (real world) and John Locke (Lost) is that Bentham’s body is also embalmed preserved for eternity. You can see in on display in the cloister of the University College, London…
I’m guessing the only thing that will get John off that island is if he leaves to save the island. I’m betting he has to move the island too.
If anyone can find a moved island, it’s Faraday.
Nice find!
I completely agree about Locke-he had to move the island again and that’s why he was off the island.
Reactions:
A fantastic episode! My head is swimming with everything that happened and I must watch it again to figure it all out! Some reactions:
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[li]Sawyer jumping out of the helicopter and me thinking he would die (while RMHPH is continually telling me Sawyer was going to die because he’s redeemed now) = :mad::([/li][li]Sawyer showing up on the beach with wet jeans and no shirt = 
Smokin’ hot (I wanted him to take Juliet right then and there.)[/li][li]The shot of the island disappearing. = frakkin’ AWESOME!!! We had to rewind it and watch it again…next time I’m watching it on slow-mo.[/li][li]Ben VIOLENTLY killing Keamy = Yay because Keamy deserved it and Boo because it doomed the freighter[/li][li]Ben’s explanation to John about why he did it even though he knew it doomed the freighter = LAME[/li][li]Sun’s convo with Widmore [keanu]WHOA.[/keanu] She scares me. I would not want to be on her bad side[/li][li]I think Faraday and the boat of redshirts moved with the island. I don’t know why I think so, I just do.[/li][li]Desmond and Penny = Awwww, I’m SOOOOO happy they got together. So, so happy.[/li][li]Oh, that makes me think that the Oceanic 6 PLUS Desmond and Lapidus will need to return to the island. Not just the 6. :eek: Didn’t think of that before.[/li][*]John in the coffin = not the biggest shocker. While I hadn’t guessed it, I’m not all that surprised either. I’m guessing he moved the island again to leave it and can’t go back.[/ul]OK, enough reactions for now.
It’s just a matter of opinion but I still think that between Charlie’s death and the reveal that it was a flash forward in the last 5 seconds (making this probably the best wtf? moment in my tv history), last season finale was more mind blowing than this year. Which doesn’t mean that it wasn’t mind blowing, you know, just… less
Anyone noticed this during the commercials last night?
Also, how interesting it is that Charlotte Lewis has been to the island before and wanted to come back…
Yes, we noticed it. I just went to it from your link. Are those dates the ComicCon dates??
Yeah, Charlotte just became MUCH more interesting. Much more.
I loved that commercial “nonpaying jobs”… heh.
I didn’t think it would be John, but it makes sense if he needed to “die” to become Jacob… dun dun dun… Maybe it’s akin to ascension (SG-1).
I think Faraday et al have survived and will be on the island. The reason being, the island displaced a LOT of water that we could see filling in the cavity… it would be conceivable that some of the surrounding water went with the island… think of the beginning of The Macross Saga.
The machinery rocked my world. It was a popular theory that they were going to move the island to a frozen place, hence Ben’s coat… but I didn’t buy it for a number of reasons. 1) They shoot in Hawaii… kind of hard to make it winter all the time. 2) Lots of extreme tech utilizes sub-zero temperatures. 3) He had Hallowax’s coat… we saw Hallowax on the video where they teleported the rabbit.
I did feel the “whoever moves the island can never return” bit to be contrived, but I’ll let it go for all of the awesome this show has generated.
Jin is not dead! :mad: He jumped off in the nick of time or was thrown to safety by the blast. lalalalalalalalala not listening…
Agreed. It seemed to me like the island itself and whatever was on it disappeared, not the surrounding waters (hence the very cool bloop). I don’t think they died right away, either. It was probably slow and awful. No doubt they cursed Jack with their dying breaths. It was a redshirt massacre; someone on the last raft-load to make it to the freighter was even wearing a red shirt! It did sort of tick me off how the redshirts and log-carriers calmly put on lifevests and jumped into Ezra James Sharkington-infested waters while the “important” people got into the helicopter and flew off to safety. Frakkin’ lemmings.
Overall, I agree that this wasn’t as big of a finish as last season. We knew two weeks ago the island was going to be moved. I did think it was cool how it vanished before their eyes though. No wonder poor Hurley is so frakked up.
“Knowing” it and seeing it are two very different things.
The same thing occurred to me. They love their philosophers. Right up there with Calvin & Hobbes.
Another parallel between Jeremy Bentham (real world) and John Locke (Lost) is that Bentham’s body is also embalmed preserved for eternity. You can see in on display in the cloister of the University College, London…
That’s just creepy. :eek:
I too think we’ll see Farraday again, he’s an interesting fellow.
By the way, who didn’t go ‘Aaaaawwwww’ when Desmond and Penny finally found their missing constant?
During Kate’s dream sequence, someone’s speaking backward on the phone (very Lynch-esque), when you play it forward:
It fit, though, with the rest of the people who’ve died so far. I certainly don’t want him to die, but c’mon! He sacrificed his own escape from the island for the woman he loved, so that she could be with the man that she loved! How much more redeemed can you get???
Sawyer showing up on the beach with wet jeans and no shirt = Smokin’ hot (I wanted him to take Juliet right then and there.)
Who’s to say he didn’t? :rolleyes:
The shot of the island disappearing. = frakkin’ AWESOME!!! We had to rewind it and watch it again…next time I’m watching it on slow-mo.
OK, was anyone else reminded of the effects for a certain other show’s FTL jumps?
Ben VIOLENTLY killing Keamy = Yay because Keamy deserved it and Boo because it doomed the freighter
Keamy’s not dead. He and Mikhail are plotting their revenge.
Ben’s explanation to John about why he did it even though he knew it doomed the freighter = LAME
I think his real explanation was perfect: “So?”
Sun’s convo with Widmore [keanu]WHOA.[/keanu] She scares me. I would not want to be on her bad side
I think she’s backing Widmore because Ben killed – no, scratch that – attempted to kill Jin (who is NOT dead) by killing Keamy (who is also not dead), thereby blowing up the freighter. How could she know? John told her after he left the island and (presumably) before he died. (John is also not dead.) 
I think Faraday and the boat of redshirts moved with the island. I don’t know why I think so, I just do.
Floating on a raft between a disappeared island and a blowed-up boat? They dead! Unless Penny’s boat (the real one this time) rescued them; but if so, why isn’t it the Oceanic 11?
Desmond and Penny = Awwww, I’m SOOOOO happy they got together. So, so happy.
Me too. Hopefully he won’t have to slaughter a bunch of suitors when they get home to Ithaca. Maybe I’m thinking of someone else…
Oh, that makes me think that the Oceanic 6 PLUS Desmond and Lapidus will need to return to the island. Not just the 6. Didn’t think of that before.
That’s going to be a hard sell, probably even harder than Kate & Aaron.
John in the coffin = not the biggest shocker. While I hadn’t guessed it, I’m not all that surprised either. I’m guessing he moved the island again to leave it and can’t go back.
Hey! That was my guess!