Life is teh suck today because (a.ka. the official B_tch & Moan thread)

Bitch and moan, Okay.

The story of Monkey…

I don’t know exactly when I knew I was different from the other boys, the first clear memory I have of the feeling was once in primary school (I was maybe 6 or 7, so convert for your local school system) when the class was seperated into Boy and Girl groups for some reason, I spent that whole day wondering why I was in the wrong group, but I was smart (or dumb) enough not to talk ask, possibly because I didn’t have the words to really say what I felt.

Move onto Secondary school, I was 13 and was told in (VERY catholic) school about the evils of “The Gays”, I figured that’s what I was, and again, didn’t talk about it lest God strike me down. So I grew up, socially awkward, nerdy and from what I’ve been told since, suspected by many to be borderline autistic. I developed a mild form of OCD, I had to stack things correctly, which I still do from time to time when I’m distracted or stressed, I’d spend hours piling things up until they were exactly right and in order.

At 16 I attempted suicide for the first time. This was no cry for help, this was a concentrated attempt to end my life. I woke up in hospital, I’d been found by my neighbor who wondered why I had been lying in the back garden for an hour. I went into the hospoital, and stayed there for 9 months, it wasn’t until I told them I was never going to try it again over and over that I was released.

I tried again as soon as I could, this time I jumped from a warehouse roof, and broke my pelvis. Back to hospital, this time I said I was with friends, and they dared me, no psych ward this time around.

So I went back to the miserable life I felt was inescapable, and fairly quickly turned to drugs. Manchester in the mid 90’s was a good place for the drug trade, guns too, I thought about buying one to use on myself, but bizzarely I was too scared to, because I didn’t want to break the law.

I was a few months past my 18th birthday when I fell in love for the first time. He was fantastic, everything I wanted, except he wasn’t gay, so I followed him to university like a puppy, and inevitably dropped out when it finally became clear to me that it was never going to happen, this did take 2 years so I was at the very least persistant.

somewhere around my 21st birthday I manage to die for a few minutes, slamming my car into a bridge support going 90 on the motorway, they bring me back on the hard shoulder.

This time I get out of hospital by agreeing to “care in the community”, I get put up in a tiny bedsit, and 3 times a week go for counciling. I actually come out of my shell because of this and make some friends, including Kate who becomes important later.

I go back to university, the same course as Kate, who quickly becomes my best friend and confidant, the first person I tell the truth about me, the first person to punch me in the face for being stupid, and the first person to take me to the support group I never knew about that had been 20 minutes from my house the whole time.

Second year at university I get approved for hormone therapy, and 9 months after that, I go what is called in the Trans-community “Full time”. I start living full time as a woman, except when my family are around, I actually manage to keep them from knowing for a year. I decide the best bet is to write my family a letter, i know, cowardly, but it really seemed the smartest thing to do at the time.

My family abandon me at this point, the few time they do talk to me is to tell me how evil and selfish I am, and that’s it, I’m cast out into the world.

Kate’s family steps in and take me in, an adoption in every sense except legal, when the time comes for me to legally change my name, they insist I take the family name, which made me cry in a good way for a good long time.

I graduate university with a BS degree, and spend the next few years just living happy, my ulcer mostly cleared up, and my OCD slowly went away, and people stopped thinking I was autistic, just a little bit weird.

That pretty much brings me up to date, I’ve never fallen in love again, not sure if I ever will, but I’m happy in myself, with the people I surround myself with, and my collections of awesome things, and I’m going back to university next year to study for a masters degree in English so I can try my hand at teaching.

So there you go, lots of bitching and moaning, but hopefully a happy ending.

Dear lord its almost 1130, timefor bed!.

OK Naughtiest Monkey. I can’t imagine the guts it took for you to open up like this. I think it’s a testament to the people that visit this forum that you are willing to share. I’m truly glad that you have found peace with yourself and also glad you’ve been able to put my own trivial problems in true perspective.

Wow. Monkey wins the thread.

Seriously, that’s all kinds of messed up craaap to go through. Glad to see you seem to have made it out the other side.

One of the things I’ve come to love about SF Fandom is that everyone involved, pretty much by definition, knows what it’s like to be an outsider, so they tend to be very accommodating to others, even when they don’t quite understand what they’re being accommodating of.

I just do not get it. You were excepted by your family when you were emotionally ill but not when you find a way to be happy. Teaching high school I see my students finding themselves. Being openly gay is no big deal for most of the students. Strangely sometimes I think I know before they do. I wonder what the world would be like if we just valued love and not what exact form it is in.

I am glad you found a happy place to be. Kate and family are wonderful.

My family abandon me at this point, the few time they do talk to me is to tell me how evil and selfish I am, and that’s it, I’m cast out into the world.

If that is selfish and evil, then I’d like to know what courageous and strong are. Thank you so much for sharing your story, TNM. I can’t possibly imagine what living like that is like and even though I’ve never met you in the physical world, I am proud to know you tonight. Exceedingly so.

And thank the gods for Kate and her family. Please give her a hug from me when you see her again.

{hugs}

I wonder what the world would be like if we just valued love and not what exact form it is in.

Seriously! I was aghast this morning reading the letters to the editor in the Washington Post. There were two letters decrying the paper’s positive portrayal of the legal victories for gay marriage in Iowa and Vermont and the fact that the DC City Council has agreed to recognize such unions within the city, even while not performing them here. These people cited the usual moral conscience, and the founders’ sense of Chritian propriety (HA!) and all the other nonsense that helps to mask bigotry in the mantel of religion.

Love is love and love is a rare thing indeed. Why would we want to deprive any two people of it when they find it, simply because of who they are? Who the hell are we to make these decisions for others? And who do we think we are to put thoughts in the mind of God?

Life sucks today because my boss thinks I’m an idiot, and I’m starting to think so too. There’s been a rash of bad stuff going on at work and while I’ve been convinced that it’s bad luck, today was the breaking point that made me think, “Is this more my fault than I’d thought?” This is especially bad right now because yesterday I felt so vindicated that a growth failure that happened last week (and he came to basically warn me to shape up or there would be an official warning after this happened) wasn’t my fault like I’d known it hadn’t been, and then today, BOOM. I know I did everything right, but this is just one too many for me. I feel slapped down and scared for my job.

It doesn’t help that my boss was concerned that I was making mistakes because I listen to my iPod during the slow, routine parts of my day or am on the computer when there’s nothing else to do. This week, there’s not enough work for me to do much of anything else, even with the busy work I’m trying to find/make. So every time he walks in until Friday, there is probably nothing else he will see me doing.

All I want to do is go home, bury myself under a pile of blankets, and sleep for a week.

Wow Thanks for the good response, I’ll behonest, i was a wee bit worried!

Awe sucks, glad to have helped :smiley:

Well, about halfway so far!

I too have found this. It’s a good thing

I wouldn’t say I was accepted by them, I think there was some sense of responsibility from them, until I made such a severe, and obvious to me, change, then they could comfortably ditch me.

A lot of it for me was down to the messeges received about just how bad it is to be different in any way, it does seem to be easier now, if only because it’s easier to find places to talk about it now, it’s just a google away

Yeah, they really are :smiley:

I will!

I don’t find this sort of thing suprising or upsetting, it’s one thing to challange peoples deeply held beliefs, it’s entirely another to expect them to like it, I find it best to take the little victories for the good they do, and not worry what people in the past may think, or even what the people next door think, little wins still go in the win column, and they aren’t easy to erase and forget. i’m not saying the tide is changing, I’m just saying that eventually it will settle to a comfortable level for everyone, just like it did with the evils of Rock and Roll, and the Teletubbies.

We’re all just people, some of us can juggle.

I’m sorry to hear that works getting you down so much, faking work is a difficult thing a the best of times, especially when being watched, I found making spreadsheets and databases very useful at providing an illusion of work, you could give that a try.

Feeling a bit forlorn. My mom has shingles. She has had a rough year, was almost blind in one eye and had to have surgery on it and then my dad had gastric bypass surgery. I think they’ve been having money issues. Well, I suppose the stress was just too much and resulted in shingles. The worst part of shingles is the neuralgia (nerve pain) which can last for YEARS (read: the rest of your life). She’s really suffering right now, taking oxycodone just to try and get through the day. I worry about her. She just needs some prayers, if anyone here (and I know many of you aren’t) are praying people. Even a good thought her way will do. :frowning:

I had that once when i was little. I dont remember it being too bad, but i remember it was itcky as hell
i hope she feels better soon, being sick is only fun when your still in school

Monkey: You should REALLY come hang out with our group. You’ll find love or it’ll find you… Or…You get so tired of us and we drive you off…

Sithwitch: The company ALWAYS blames you. The small cog of the machine is always the problem when there is a problem. And when things are going good, management gets all the reward.

Funny: Promotions = Your highest level of incompetence.
Fired = You’re too competent

Keara: On the prayer list! And I’ve discovered when dealing with nerves…Massage! Proper massage promotes proper nerve feeling. I’m going through some physical rehab right now from a car accident March 9th…And I may have perm. nerve damage in my right arm…But I’ll be darned that massage doesn’t feel the best! So I hope that is in her healing plan. God’s speed to her recovery.

I love my Sci-fi group! (tear…) :stuck_out_tongue:

Aw, Sith, don’t get so down on yourself! Just remember when dealing with bosses (and I can say this because I am one) sh*t rolls down hill. I’m sorry you’re worried. I hope things work out! hugs

If there’s one thing you don’t have to worry about with this crowd, it’s acceptance. :slight_smile: And thank you for sharing your story. I can’t say I know what you’ve been through, but I know what it is to feel different. None of my family understands my geekiness. I can’t imagine how much harder it would have been for you. My heart goes out to you!

She’s in my thoughts and prayers!

I second everything you just said! :smiley:

Thanks for the good feelings! Today is definitely better, with the exception that I just nearly dropped a very heavy ultracentrifuge rotor and got hit in the stomach with it when I tried to catch it. Nothing I can’t survive, though! (Even if now it hurts to breathe too deep :stuck_out_tongue: )

:frowning:

Hope both your folks start feeling better soon.

So I’ve been dialing this concert hall here in town to find out about a proposal for a competition that my group turned in back in November the results of which should have been announced by now. So, not knowing who is in charge of this, I just hit the switchboard. And again. And again. Every number I try, the person is away from their desk or on vacation.

Seriously, do these people ever work?

Keara, consider this official notice that two prayers are headed your way for your folks. I’m not overly religious, but I’ll always put my hands together and try to generate some good karma for a friend. :smiley:

The Naughtiest Monkey, please keep in mind that everyone here has, probably, to some extent, felt like an outsider because of the very interests that drew us all together here in the first place. Different degrees, for sure, but all able to empathize with the basic craaappy feeling. And we’re all able to find a great time together here. Welcome to the herd. :smiley:

Maybe they all have caller id and your number is on the “Don’t Answer This Number!” list? :smiley:

They have ULTRA centrifuges now? :eek:SCIENCE!!!:stuck_out_tongue:

its not real science unless it has ultra in the title:rolleyes:

This is my new motto.

it replaces “no grass, no ass”, which is good, because I have no idea how I ended up with that one.