I’m guessing that there are more than a few Heroes fans among this crew - so a place to toss things around would interesting… especially in the midst of BSG hiatus.
Never seen an episode of it lol
I saw that Kristen Bell (Veronica Mars) and David Anders (Sark from Alias) will play new characters in season 2. I’m looking forward to that.
I am still in the middle of watching Season 1 on DVD. I did tape the episode last night so I plan to watch that as well, I came late into the series (Just like with BSG!). I like Heroes its cool!
Heroes is awesome. I’m in Australia and here we don’t usually get things til around six months later, (or in BSG’s case, pretty much never) but they’re fast tracking Heroes so we’re only a week behind, which makes me happy. I love that Veronica Mars and Sark are going to be on. Huge fan.
I think we should move this discussion to the Other SF Category being as that Heroes does fall there.
Last nights ep was great, I just wonder where it’s going to go.
Save the battlestar, save the fleet! Oh, um, okay, maybe not…
Any other “Heroes” fans at the watercooler? Who watched last night’s season premiere? What did you think?
D’oh! I just started a Heroes thread in the Other Sci-Fi section. Hey, moderators, anyway you can delete that (or tell me how to)? Sorry! Mea maxima culpa!
I dunno…not too impressed. The writing and acting seem so lightweight compared to BSG and Lost. Too many ridiculous cliches and too much bad acting sully it for me. I’ll admit, I got hooked last season, but even by its own standards I thought yesterday’s ep. continued the quality slide of last season’s finale.
I just went through season one on DVD with my wife (though, actually, I took the set with me on my current business trip, so the wife and I will have to go back and do the last six episodes again). We’re both hooked on it. The acting and the writing are not quite at the same level as BSG’s, but it’s a very different show and works in that way (BSG, for instance, is an allegory whereas Heroes is more a myth). I haven’t yet watched last night’s episode, though, so I can’t much comment on it or where it will go.
That said: I don’t get the hate over the season finale last year. I mean, sure, there wasn’t some big, DC-comics style huge blow-out at the end, but, frankly, it wouldn’t have been right to have that in a character-driven show like this one, where the FX work has been kept to the periphery anyway. In fact, I think it would’ve been something of a disappointment, not to mention a big cliche, to have a huge blow-out fight to end the season.
Perhaps someone can clear this up for me, near the end of the last series the little girl who can pinpoint where people are mentioned this guy who is the only one she cant locate because hell be able to see her, did we find out who that was or is it a unresolved mystery?
Perhaps someone can clear this up for me, near the end of the last series the little girl who can pinpoint where people are mentioned this guy who is the only one she cant locate because hell be able to see her, did we find out who that was or is it a unresolved mystery?
It’s currently unresolved - but now she is having nightmares about him and is drawing pictures of his eyes in school. Rumour has it that he is the main baddie this season.
I reckon they didn’t do a big fight between Peter and Sylar because they already did that in Five Years Later (the episode) and so it would just be the same sort of thing. But I would just like to take the time to remind all of the Heroes of one of the main rules of scary movies, “Even if it looks dead, it’s probably not, chop it’s head off.” Now I haven’t seen the premiere coz, Australia, and I know he’s been made into a regular, but I’m kind of done with Sylar, I want to move on.
I believe it was left open, but I think that is what her nightmares were all about last night.
I like Heroes and while it is not BSG, it is still a decent interesting show. It certainly helps fill the void during this lovely hiatus.
And Mike - at the last meet-up there are two guys who are fans of GWC that do a podcast for Heroes…I have only listened to a few episodes of theirs. Thier inspiration for the type of podcast was GWC and they even pimped our Meet-up on thier cast. Hopefully you can make the meet-up in Oct and will get to meet them…if you want the link let me know.
Armando, that’s an interesting statement, but I’m not sure what you mean. Could you clarify/elaborate?
I’m not sure I agree that Heroes is simply mythological. I think there are a lot of allegorical overtones to the stories. The questions of: what will you sacrifice to fit in? What will you do to save a life? Many lives? What would you do with the power to … ? What is a family? What is Loyalty?
Unless you mean it’s a Myth in that it uses a supernatural supposition to answer those questions while BSG uses more of a “realistic” setting for the same ends. And while BSG may be considered SciFi it is a fairly “grounded” SciFi. No transporters, no phasers, realistic needs for food and water and ammo.
As for Heroes, I thought the first episode of the new season was a good “Start”. It basically said "here are the people we’re going to follow and what their issues are and where they are after last season. I saw it as much as an epilogue to last season as a forward to this season, but yeah, it was light on the meat.
Rorlins
Rorlins, I can see your point but they don’t do a very good job of it.
What I meant is this: “Heroes” is a myth in that it follows the mythological archetype of the hero’s journey, only multiplied times twelve or so. In fact, how the characters behave within the parameters of that archetype leads them to other such archetypes (the guy who can turn invisible and trains Peter Petrelli would be the wise old teacher ala Obi Wan Kenobi or Yoda, say, though with a twist) or leads them to take the roles of other archetypal characters (Nathan becomes a villain for the last few episodes of season one, merely by his inaction, only to undo that choice at the last minute).
BSG is an allegory in that it sets up an alien world with alien situations to stand in for and comment on our own world. It’s not EXACT (Laura Roslin is NOT G.W. Bush, the Cylons are not a terrorist organization–ironically, the terrorist characters are always humans–and Baltar is not an evil dictator or anything along those lines) but it can be read as such more than as a more general myth, though it does have elements of that.
I finally caught the season opener of “Heroes” last night. I was slightly underwhelmed, but I’m curious to see where they take the show this season.