GWC Podcast #97

So what you’re saying is that it isn’t civil disobedience if committed by people whose rights as citizens aren’t fully realized?

^close, you must have the option in voting on the laws that you are commiting disobedience against for it to be actual civil disobedience

I thought civil disobedience is when you purposefully and non-violently disobey laws that bind you as a citizen of a state in order to make a point about the unethical nature of the laws you’re protesting. (I mean “state” in the political sense, not the one of the fifty of the USA sense.)

Boxy, is there a different term to describe when citizens disobey laws that bind them because they had no role in making them?

Hrm. Most women, and many blacks, had that option. You then start getting into percentages, and dicey ones to parse at that. I’m not sure that is a useful metric.

That would be true during the suffrage movement in the early 19th century & the anti-slavery movement prior to the civil war. However, in the 20th century civil rights movements of the 60’s, women 7 blacks had the ability to vote. The laws allowed it, the practicesmade it almost impossible for them to exercise the right that law had already given them. Therefore, given that the law did allow them to vote, it would be civil disobedience.

My guess is that those in the “philisophical [sic] community” are neither southern Blacks nor southern women because what your “philisophical [sic] community” is espousing is both grossly ignorant and deeply offensive. It is a sad attempt to minimize the importance of what our grandparents and parents went through. And who the frak cares if the local and state governments were philosophically true democracies or not?

Perhaps your “philisophical [sic] community” needs to take a more literal interpretation of the words “civil” and “disobedience”.

Civil Disobedience was a term coined by Henry David Thoreau - he wrote an essay titled the same. He was one of the first to name it that and to practice it by refusing to pay a pole tax to protest the fact that it was basically a way to keep blacks from voting. He spent some time in jail. The term Civil Disobedience is defined as :

Refusal to obey civil laws in an effort to induce change in governmental policy or legislation, characterized by the use of passive resistance or other nonviolent means

I’ve been flipping through the post and I’ve been reading about Tyrall’s rant, Six beating on Tigh and a ton of other worth while stuff but did anyone mention the fact that Six admitted that she knew and was with Baltar! Tigh finally has a confession of Baltars guilt but he’s blind to it because he seeing Ellen. And it looks like he’s getting to know six in the same way so will he be able to say anything about it if he wanted too? Or maybe he’ll act upon it alone?
Any thoughts GWC’ers?

Everyone already knew Baltar was “with” Six (IYKWIM). He lived on the cylon basestar with her for months.

I think it was at the trial that everyone guessed what was going on with Caprica-Six and Baltar. Kinda easy to guess.

Saying that I’m new to Galactica and I’ve only watched season 4 currently… I’m a poor student and the cheapest box sets are still out of my price range. Waiting for the 3 season’s and miniseries box set.