GWC Podcast #151: BSG 4.5 No Exit

Welcome to BSG’s most revealing episode ever — No Exit! Highlights from our discussion: we try to wrap our minds around the newly-explained cylon family tree, marvel at the fact that there has in fact been a “cylon plan” all along (though it’s much more jacked-up then even grizzled BSG viewers might imagine), begin the who-or-what-is-Danny discussion, note the many Christian allegories in No Exit, psychoanalyze Cavil from his screwed-up childhood to his desire to torture Ellen (and apparently everyone else), debate the mind-frak of “meeting your maker,” sympathize with Starbuck’s tough decision, wonder if the Galactica-as-character fans will finally get their wish, and enjoy the appearance of brain-surgeon John Hodgeman and the return of the “swirl.”

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LOl!! I loved this ep. Can’t wait to listen to the podcast :slight_smile:

Just completed RDM’s podcast and am downloading GWC now.

All I have to say is, ‘WOW!!’ I’ll have to look for some plot holes, but I think things are tying together well. If John Cavil knows all and set up the Final 5, the only thing I really need to know is the timeline. The 7 must have been in the Colonies well before the Cylon War for Tighe & Ellen to have been seeded there and have true histories with the Colonials including Adama. Boomer might actually have been left on here homeworld as a child, even.

Did Cavil cause the Cylon War in the Colonies?

Is Daniel Starbuck’s father? If so, how did he get into the Colonies? Why would Cavil seed in a clone of a model he erased?

Too many thoughts for now, let me mull over so ideas and get back.

Ok so how does the travel from erf to the colonies work? How are they not able to age?
HELP!!

I’m like Sean but I was a little prick when I was a little younger and I have (thankfully) grown up.
Cavil does seem like a person who is bitter over a crapy childhood or what he sees as a crapy childhood…

Travel at just shy of the speed of light + Einstein’s Theory of Relativity = time passing much more slowly than on an essentially stationary object, like a planet.

Oh that’s cool thanks OT.:slight_smile:

I would like to thank you guys for getting the podcast out so early so that we can listen to it before the AFP. Thanks

Why would someone want to make a son to look like your dad. EEEWWW Who is the other son patterned after??

Apple and Eden jumped in my mind. I am so confused I think I need a flow chart to follow this episode.

LOL!!:smiley:
I hope I didn’t sound like an idiot last night!:o

Na, I could not even get some of my words out. I will chat at all of you at one.

I think Cavil wants to be like a hybrid…

Just sayin’, I wouldn’t mind a few thousand years locked up with Anders and the Chief.

LOL!!
I would not mind being locked up with tory and ellen.:smiley:

Sean was beeped so you can add your own word of choice.

:smiley: Good point.

I LOVE the dirk bit guys! :slight_smile:

Oh no not enough time to listen to the podcast before AFP.

Is it going to have the same set up as the one last night? Will chuck and adura and sean be there?

Chuck often comes. I twittered him to see if he is coming.

Chuck said for a bit of time.

Ellen said a couple of times that Cavil wasn’t being the boy she created. So I wonder if maybe she created him as a youthful version of her father, and then something in his psyche got twisted and corrupted, and he aged into his present form. Probably far-fetched, but it made some sense, considering that the other 8 Cylons created by the Five were young and relatively beautiful.