Ya know, I always enjoyed Mr Hatch in passing. I really enjoyed him as Zarek. I belive after that conversation, I am a budding fan. That was a riveting conversation. He has way more insight & respect for this genre than most have shown who get sucked into the vortex. It was fascinating.
What a great interview! I’ve heard some others with him but this was the best (and certainly longest) yet.
I love that he touched on the fact that none of the Cylon/s/z can be sure that they’re not behaving according to programming. Athena’s suicide express to the Basestar to rescue her daughter is a great example. She had to know that it would expose everything that she knew to the enemy. Or did she? Or did she do it precisely because she was programmed to?
[jest mode/ Don’t accidentally ask Richard Hatch “How’s it going, eh?”/ jest mode]
Man, you just nailed it right on the head, Uchiha! I started listening way back at the beginning of season 3 (back in the Shire…) and was checking out another BSG podcast that was, more or less, as you describe (if I remember correctly. Obviously, I didn’t stick with it for very long). I have really come to feel a sense of propietorship, as it were, in this little 'cast. When they got the mention on Howard Stern and Rolling Stone I felt like it was one of my kids, or an old student, perhaps, who’d won some major award or something. As the audience grew into a community through the forum, I’ve come to make new friends that I would never have met otherwise. As the series has grown and the podcast has gotten more attention (and thank goodness for Ron Moore and David Eick’s vision for including new media and fan communities like this in their promotional efforts!) and gotten noticed by some of the show’s creators and stars, I’ve felt very lucky to be along for the ride and, again, exceedingly proud of the awesome threesome (IYKWIM…wait, scratch that).
All right, mushiness over.
Back to topic:
One thing I appreciated Mr. Hatch addressing was the question of how much work it is to simply get work in the arts. He’s been in the business for almost 40 years, largely out of the limelight and not always acting (in fact, hadn’t he more or less quit acting until the new efforts to revive TOS and then the new BSG came calling?). I’m glad to hear that he’s out there teaching other bourgeoning actors (and writers?) how to strive for longevity in a business that chews you out and leaves you for dead at any moment. Aiming for that longevity is one of the best lessons my music professors instilled in me.
Totally agree. My head was spinning.
Thank you Chuck, Sean and Audra.
What a great podcast. So many interesting ideas.
I knew Richard Hatch was a sci-fi fan, but I had no idea. I am still reeling.
Very enjoyable 2 hours !! Thank you.
Riverworld reference? 
Amen . . . just, amen.
Quite intriguing indeed! Actually, it makes me think of something that wasn’t touched on in the 'cast. I’ve been especially captivated by Cain’s humanity since the (rather natural, I thought) revelations of Razor that Cain and Gina were lovers; the look in her eyes when Gina points the gun at her makes so much more sense, then. In the context of her doomed relationship with Gina, Cain is almost more a tragic hero than a villain. I’d like to believe that when Gina holds that gun up to her, she realizes the reality of how she’s treated Gina. By that I mean how she turned and . . .
okay wow. I just realized that Cain+Gina is very similar to Adama+Tigh, just a power of ten worse for both.
Adama and Tigh were close friends, and Tigh didn’t know he was a “cylon”.
Cain and Gina were lovers, and Gina knew she was betraying her.
All the drama we’ve gotten with Tigh and Adama is the nice version of the repressed-yet-unspeakably-ugly drama that happened when Cain realized who Gina really was.
And you know Gina loved Cain, since in the moment where she could have shot her she hesitated, long enough that I’m unsure she could ever have done it at that time. Which makes Caine’s treatment of her that much more tragic afterwards, treating her like a machine (after all, isn’t that what the Cylons are?). And in that final moment, Cain sees what she’s done…which is a thousand times worse than knowing that you’re going to die, I mean, knowing that you’ve allowed and even sanctioned the torture and rape of someone you loved? And that must have hit Cain, harder than the bullet ever could.
…I’m just going to sit in a corner and cry for a bit, if that’s alright.
Wow. Did Dirk Benedict just blame the “feminist movement” for what he sees as a bad tv show?
It was really enjoyable getting to talk with Richard Hatch. I was joking with Sean afterward that Hatch agreed with so many of Sean’s theories from the beginning, such as the ardent dislike of the Adamlin dictatorship.
I disagree with some of Mr. Hatch’s arguments about BSG, but I’m really glad he was open to my questions. I’ve searched and still don’t find much that is humane about Adm. Cain, though I think Michelle Forbes was stellar. I also disagree that Cain’s decision to leave most of the civilian fleet to die was correct - I think just because it was a “tough” decision doesn’t mean she made the right one.
What an honor to listen to the man geek out for a while. It’s pretty cool to get such an inside perspective!
Classy move, no?
I think he’s still pissed that Starbuck is a chick now.
What a douchebag. Seriously - that kind of makes me not want to watch the original series.
At least he was forced to wear that stupid little cape.
My favorite line from the article is “Men hand out cigars. Women “hand out” babies”
My only response to that is “SUCK IT, Dick Benedict!” (no that is not a typo)
I do think it is interesting that he seems to be blaming RDM for the fact that the studio executives from TOS wouldn’t let him play Starbuck the way he wanted to…seriously? He’s still whining about it after 40 years? 
Word. To me, it’s endlessly fascinating that few people walk the earth feeling like they’re An Evil Prick Who Does Bad Things. But many are, and do.
I understand the point he’s trying to make, but I don’t think that Cain, ncessarily was trying to do what he is giving her credit for. Essentially, at some point it comes down to “natural selection” if you will. Only the strong will survive, the weak will be “culled” from the herd. Given limited resoources & space eventually a decision has to be made on who can come with them. We saw Boomer make the same decision in the mini series. Ultimately, I think that’s the better comparison than Cain to Adama. If that’s the comparison you’re going to look at.
However, Cain wasn’t interested in who could survive. She was interested in waging a guerilla war against an intractable enemy. All other considerations were irrelevant. That’s not making the tough decision, that’s turning yourself into a vigilante, it’s a very different thing.
What was fascinating was hearing that he had posited a similar scenario in one of his books, and I think that may be coloring his take on Cain. Anyone who has been given the ‘lifeboat test’ has to realize there is no black and white there.
However, Cain wasn’t interested in who could survive. She was interested in waging a guerilla war against an intractable enemy. All other considerations were irrelevant. That’s not making the tough decision, that’s turning yourself into a vigilante, it’s a very different thing.
Cain was actually staying true to her mission: Fight the enemy.
Adama had the legal reason to modify his mission: The government, such as it is, gives you new orders.
I have to say, I’m not completely convinced by RH’s take, but I’m intrigued by it.
BTW: Question I wish was asked: How does the other Richard Hatch get to use that name? I thought that in Hollywood, there could be only one.
Frak you guys had alot of fun didn’t you?
I loved hearing Richard Hatch’s thought’s on just about everything! 
The man is just so insightfull and full of life, I would like to see him get to do his own version of Battlestar someday soon.
On a sidenote for a newbie to the podcast like me it was nice to hear what you guy’s do for a living. I knew what Adura and Sean did but not Chuck.
And Chuck you are NOT old…
I agree with you, Cain is still a fraking BIT&* too me…
NOTHING justify’s what she did and as much as I love RH I just can’t get there from here…
I’ve still got about 20 minutes of listening to do, but thank you, GWC and Mr. Hatch, for such an enjoyable and thought-provoking 'cast. I think I “read” BSG quite differently from Mr. Hatch, but that’s one of the things I love about GWC–even if I don’t agree, the views expressed are so interesting and compelling that they expand my conception of all the different possible meanings one can take from the show and challenge me to think through why I see it the way I do.
Yes and yes! Not only are his conclusions disgustingly misogynistic, but he also doesn’t even link his criticisms logically to the “evidence” and anecdotes he sets forth. Chauvinism=:mad::rolleyes:; Chauvinism+Bad Logic=:mad::mad:
Although, I guess I shouldn’t get too mad–that article probably single-handedly got me an “A” on a SOCY101 paper on gender representation in American television. I couldn’t have made up a source half as relevant to resistant femininities if I’d tried.