Today we get BSG 4.5 ’sode #6 — as long as you haven’t cheated and grabbed ‘em from Amazon. (We haven’t!) Highlights: we debate the creepiness vs. evilness of Backyard BBQ 8, wonder if Gaeta hasn’t been as celibate as we thought earlier in BSG, discuss the nature of free will as applied to 8s that only seem stable when in a relationship, and speculate on various possible ’sode endings. We didn’t get a chance to take calls today, but we’ll definitely make room for ‘em Wednesday!
If the Eights’ need to be in a relationship take away free will, I wonder if there’s a general human need to relate (in some way) to others that we could also say removes some of our free will. That is, if a person is isolated, could the effects of that isolation remove our ability to choose how to behave? I think, if the isolation caused depression or something, it could indeed mess with your ability to have free will, though I don’t know if that qualifies under most definitions of the term.
First post! Last laugh! Ha-HAh!
Bruce Almighty had a great quote regarding that, “How do you get someone to love you without effecting free will?”
God (portrayed by Morgan Freeman) answers, “Tell me about it. If you find out, let me know.” Hence God’s dilemma, creating a being which can either choose to love Him or not.
When I was a child I had a restriction of free will. I was under the authority of my parents. I could do what I wished but would face the consequences. IMO, this hasn’t change throughout my entire life. You are always subject to someone else (in a relationship, as a parent, in the workplace, as a student, as a teacher). You are never totally free.
Unless, of course, you lose all sense of reason and go insane. Even then you are subject to the brokeness of your mind.
In the end the gift of free will is just that, a gift. You have the choice. What you do with it makes you who you are, even under certain restrictions.
I did cheat and I did grab 'em from Amazon—but haven’t watched beyond six yet.
Serves me right for ignoring the boards for a few days–I found out too late to download 'em. Oh well, at least I can’t cheat now!
I am only posting weapons that we have seen so far in the sodes. Yes Sharky would have a sidearm but I doubt that he will get a chance to use it. And yes the vacuum of space could be a weapon it it is not a very good idea on such a small craft as a Raptor that has a hatch instead of an airlock.
Here is the updated game board
Awesomeness, Brendon. With a side of Awesomesauce.
Sorry guys (Audra, Chuck & Sean), but that is Racetrack in the Raptor with Hoshi. I noticed her in 'sode 4 and posted about it. Later watching the enhanced version of the 'sode Jane Espenson confirmed that it is indeed Racetrack.
What a difference a good mic makes.
Is it just me, or does Gaeta look like he’s going to pick up the nearest blunt instrument and club BYBBQ 8 over the head with it? She’s given him the coordinates…he no longer needs her to get back. Maybe she knows something from New Craprica that is liable to get him another visit to the airlock?
And those Clue cards are badass. Nice work!
Indeed, and thanks for noticing. And for putting up with me sounding miserable via my cell phone.
But hopefully the discussion makes up for the low quality of my call-it-in performance. I really enjoyed the free will discussion, and I’m still thinking about it.
No kidding. I thot it was a joke at first with someone filling in as Chuck trying to fool us all. :rolleyes:
Brendon, your Clue Cards are AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing these!
You know, I didn’t think about it until later, but in this 'sode when Gaeta kisses Sharon again in the raptor, he tells her “I have someone now.” This is the kind of thing you say when you anticipate more than a kiss, isn’t it? It might be a way of saying “what we had on New Caprica needs to stay in the past.” But it also seems like Gaeta still holds out hope of being rescued. Otherwise, might he not just go ahead and snog away? Of course, he could just be a decent guy trying to be loyal to Hoshi. But it makes one wonder.
One other thing - even though we’ve seen the timer running down and back up again, there’s really no way to know how much time has actually elapsed, is there? Every time they lose somebody (no more oxygen required for THAT guy) and jettison them (some air leaks out) I’d assume they recalculate the time. I guess all we know is that it’s been less than three days, since that’s where they start us off with the first flashback in webisode #1.
Thanks
I thought the same thing, made me think Gaeta might have been in a similar situation to that of Ellen Tigh. Maybe Gaeta was using the relationship he had with the 8 as a way of ensuring that she would work with him.
oh wow, that’s Chuck?
As an ironic sidenote…I just downloaded the “Oxygen recalculator” app onto my iPhone.
Solai, is that a real app? Wow. The things an iPhone can do.
And Brendon is awesome! Though, where’s the butterfingers weapons card?
Good job on the podcast without Chuck at the helm. Who was that dude? It’s weird that a phone voice can sound so different than the usual.
I can’t comment on the actual episode, given I cheated. (totally worth it!)
But yep. I think Boomer’s crown of crazy might just be taken by BYBBQ8. Definitely the crazies of the eights, and neither are people I’d like to be trapped with in a raptor.
I’ve always thought there was this inherent neediness in the 8s.
They are the most susceptible to falling in love- often tragically.
They are totally devoted to their target of love. totally. strains of ONJ
They are often clueless as to how far obsession will take them, but committed to it.
The 6s have always been jealous of the 8s- I think it’s because the 6s are more guarded about their hearts, while the 8s just go for it. That’s why Sharon conceived when 6 didn’t.
And what changed about the 6 who got knocked up by Tigh? She committed to him. Baby barrier gone.
I feel sorry for BYBBQ 8, in a way. Her story will always be tragic. and scaaary…
**See holes blown in theory directly below…sigh…I hate you Ron Moore…
I don’t know. In the mini-series, I always thot Six conceived when her back glowed but died saving Baltar.
Six also got knocked up by Tigh.
Boomer never conceived and Tyrol and her were knockin’ boots big time.
I was just about to say, “yes, but Tyrol–Cylon” and then I remembered: Tigh–Cylon too! everything I knew is no longer valid. aaarrrggghhh!!!