GWC Podcast #132 (Bonus)

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#81

Fear not - You have heard my voice thousands of times and yet you do not know my name. Oh wait, that could be Dirk.

I guess as most know by now, the identity of the FC will not be as noteworthy as the significance of what that means to the drive towards the conclusion of the series.

In truth the viable candidates are relatively few at this point. Eliminate anybody in the Last Supper photo - with the exception of the curve ball just thrown re Roslin. Eliminate anybody who is dead - as long as you are certain they are really dead. Eliminate anybody who was not in the fleet when D’Anna said the FC was not in the fleet. (Which I take it means that he/she was on a base star.) Include someone to whom D’Anna owed a deep apology. (I am convinced that the FF to whom she apologized is the FC - good story telling demands it.) Agree that it is an adult. That’s what has been seen in the Oprah House.

Murkier areas:

  1. Decide whether the FC knows that he/she is the FC. If your answer is yes, there are not many characters that show evidence of anything to the contrary.

  2. Decide who it was that 6 met at the marketplace/park in the miniseries.

  3. Decide who it was that left the note for Adama re 12 models (it was NOT Baltar - totally against character).

  4. Decide whether the “odds” favor it being a woman (and/or has a widow’s peak).

  5. Decide who it was that provoked the 2nd war by participating in or somehow knowing about the Valkyrie’s mission in “Hero” and attacking Bulldog’s viper to make sure that the mission was discovered by the Cylons.

  6. Accept that the OGG’s reference to redemption is no longer that big of a clue, assuming that the redemption needed is for whatever happened on Earth (or for provoking the 2nd war, or both).

By the way - the real “secret” in all this may not be who is the FC, but rather who is the god whose name must not be said - worshipped by the 5 priests - who clearly are somehow the equivalents of the FF.

#82

Not necessarily. We have no evidence whether or not the F5 can resurrect (or could, before the Hub was destroyed). There’s no reason that the FC couldn’t be a character who had died, only to awaken in a goo tank. That widens the field to… about 10 billion or so. :stuck_out_tongue:

Eliminate anybody who was not in the fleet when D’Anna said the FC was not in the fleet. (Which I take it means that he/she was on a base star.)

Or on a planet, another human ship, or back on the Hub.

Include someone to whom D’Anna owed a deep apology. (I am convinced that the FF to whom she apologized is the FC - good story telling demands it.)

If it was someone who had died, either directly by D’Anna’s actions or the “Cylonic guilt” of the genocide of humanity, that could also explain her remorse.

Agree that it is an adult. That’s what has been seen in the Oprah House.

Although we don’t know for certain that time works the same way there as in the “real world”. And, with Tigh at least, it’s been established that the F5 age normally, so it’s possible that the “Oprah House” shows their ultimate forms, not their current ones.

Murkier areas:

  1. Decide whether the FC knows that he/she is the FC. If your answer is yes, there are not many characters that show evidence of anything to the contrary.

Neither did any of the other Cylons, before they were revealed. And if it was someone not on the fleet – or already dead – there may not have been any evidence for us to see.

  1. Decide who it was that 6 met at the marketplace/park in the miniseries.

  2. Decide who it was that left the note for Adama re 12 models (it was NOT Baltar - totally against character).

I wonder if these will ever be revealed. It could just be a case of “what happens in the miniseries, stays in the miniseries.”

  1. Decide whether the “odds” favor it being a woman (and/or has a widow’s peak).

It’s not going to be an even M/F ratio in any case, so this may not matter.

As for the widow’s peak, who knows if that’s even significant?

  1. Decide who it was that provoked the 2nd war by participating in or somehow knowing about the Valkyrie’s mission in “Hero” and attacking Bulldog’s viper to make sure that the mission was discovered by the Cylons.

Arguably, Tigh may have unknowingly revealed their position by his very presence.

  1. Accept that the OGG’s reference to redemption is no longer that big of a clue, assuming that the redemption needed is for whatever happened on Earth (or for provoking the 2nd war, or both).

Redemption, especially in a prophecy, is too vague to help determine anything. It’s definitely an important detail, but it can probably be safely ignored until after the reveal. At this point, who hasn’t done something requiring redemption?

By the way - the real “secret” in all this may not be who is the FC, but rather who is the god whose name must not be said - worshipped by the 5 priests - who clearly are somehow the equivalents of the FF.

Wait, what?

Old Timer, talking about gods??? Another Festivus Miracle! :smiley:

#83

Yeah - I know. I’m just staking out a position to see what we come up with - by keeping things REAL simple. Photos are photos, death is death, etc.

Oh there is a God or gods (or both) lurking out there all right - as we have discussed. It’s one’s definition of the word(s) where things get really complicated. (Hmm, that sounds familiar.)