GWC Podcast #130 (Bonus)

yeah - “Battlestar Galactica season 4.5 webisode”

Welcome Natalie :smiley:

thankyou StevieSpin

thanks for reminding me, yet again, how Sci-fi channel discriminates against it’s non-US resident viewers… I won’t even bother to try watching it… :mad::(:confused:

Thanks for that! I didn’t know it was there. I just watched it and I guess Espenson settled that the two Eights were not Athena or Boomer. Also, this time around watching I saw a basestar in the background behind the spinny ship. I didn’t notice that the first couple of times I watched it.

That spinny-ship has the deus-ex-machina protection of RDM… it’s NOT going to get destroyed… Ever…

thank you for not talking down to me when i did not read the whole thread :smiley:

and welcome natalie.

Welcome Natalie Anne!

I think they’re in tactical–we don’t see that area very much, but it’s where they have the big table with all the little model ships, as seen most prominently in “Hand of God.” It is much brighter in there than usual, though. Maybe there’s been a light bulb burned out for the past few years and they finally got around to replacing it? :wink:

Thoughts on the writer commentary:
-The talk of having the sets torn down as soon as they finished shooting each scene made me sad.
-Narcho? Really? Huh. I’m glad they went with Hoshi, because Narcho always struck me as kind of a sorrybarb. And I wonder what Espenson means by having Hoshi here fitting in better with Season 4? Is she referring to the lingering hug in “Revelations,” or is there going to be something more in the series proper?
-“Pilot Eight” and “Sweet Eight”–hmm, interesting…

I posted this earlier in the thread (well it was actually a different thread, but still:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fROCdL3oX0I

First - Hello, and welcome to the forums.

Second - if you listen to the commentary one, I believe that the CIC set was busy, so that is actually tactical

The commentary one? Is there a RDM cast on the webisode?

<scurries off to check>

My further thoughts after having watched it 3 more times…I had to restrain myself.

-The closing of the eyes on the civilian 8 means something, but I don’t think it means what has been speculated so far. It looked more tired than anything.

-The bloody hands are are either one of the flight crew or the cylon pilot. I’m leaning toward the female Raptor pilot.

-The Gaeta/Hoshi kiss, I know Starbuccaneer was hoping for more salaciousness & I understand why. But, after thinking about it, I don’t think PDA like that is in Gaeta’s nature…or Hoshi’s for that matter. Gaeta is also still in a lot of either real or fake pain so it’s doubtful something like that would be happening. Also, I think something of that nature needs more of a lead up than a 4 minute scene like this. Which would preclude any real content being delivered.

-The furtiveness before the kiss was due to a slamming door before he handed him the package.

-This could be more clues to Gaeta being the FC…I’m not convinced yet. We simply havne’t seen enough of what’s going on. They also won’t reveal something that big in webisodes. My thinking it it will be in the first 3 episodes when they return.

-The cutting hand is the pilot cylon…looking at the pic posted earlier in the thread, you can clearly see flight suit cuffs in it.

-That was definitely tactical. The table is strewn with maps, Tigh is pouring over maps, the wall has basestars & there are other models besides the raptor in the outscene on the table. Interesting lighting compared to what we’ve seen before.

I think the thing that throws everyone off in the scene in tactical is how bright it was. Someone went through there and replaced EVERY burned out bulb!

Not Ron - the cowrither Jane Espenson

http://www.scifi.com/rewind/?sid=870861

I got the link from earlier in this thread, I think.

Aset (and others)

  1. Why do you not believe that the bloody hands are those of Gaeta? If the persuasive jelly donut theory does not prove correct, it appears that somebody has killed somebody with his/her bare hands (but there is no guarantee of that).

  2. The blood (or jelly) on Gaeta’s face does not appear to be the result of wounds to him (on the face) - agreed?

  3. So, who was on the receiving end of the violence? And why? (And was it Gaeta, somebody else or more than one who was on the giving end?)

  4. Assuming, of course, that all the blood is not the result of trying to save somebody. I am going with more of a MacBeth scenario, however.

  5. If Gaeta dealt out the “punishment” there is one person whom he would be most inclined to pummel - it seems to me - if not outright kill - Baltar. Gaeta knows better than anyone what Baltar did on NC - and as a consequence what he is capable of in the future. Baltar dying early in the season - now that would be a shocker.

  6. Gaeta is not the FC. Redemption and the OGG. Despite his “collaboration” with the Cylons on NC it occurs to me that nobody in the whole cast is less in need of redemption than Gaeta. On NC he was, essentially, a spy for the resistance. Nobody was at greater risk than he, if caught, including Tigh. Otherwise, from the start, he has been unfailingly reliable and competent. And talk about low maintenance. Also, the FC is female, Eddie Munster or Mike Ditka.

  7. On his “relationship” with Hoshi - I agree with others - I suspect (and hope) that the writers will establish it as one of the, if not the, most stable on the show. That would be like the writers. These guys are just fine with each other - in the big picture. No real story here. Now (most of) the straights - well that’s a whole other story.

It could be looks like by the end of things Gaeta ends up in a flight suit.

So the bloody hands could be his.

That’s what I was thinking. If so, the plot thickens.

My guess is that in the webisode the writers have given us one clue to some unanswered question (not necessarily who the the FC) of importance to the overall resolution.

Re the Gaeta-Hoshi smooch:
The vibe I got, regarding the ‘furtive nature’ of that scene, was that they weren’t being overtly affectionate simply because they’re both military officers, and a display like that wouldn’t be appropriate, and is probably officially frowned upon, no matter what the orientation. I didn’t get a ‘gotta hide because we’re gay’ feeling about that scene. Remember waaaaay back, when Chief and Boomer always had to jump into the nearest storage shed to get it on. There’s alot of fooling around going on between officers, for sure, but I think it’s probably not something the Admiral wants to see in the hallways. That and the drug delivery, which is probably another reason for their unease.

thank you…

I understand if they can’t release the full episode over the internet, be it hulu or scifi.com, but if it is webisodes, why the location block?

For one, I thought the hands looked kinda small so I was leaning toward female hands. For two, I had forgotten that Gaeta does indeed end up in a flight suit & bloody, those hands are obviously from someone in a flightsuit. It is certainly possible they are Gaeta’s hands…in fact probably more likely. The reason I say more likely is, I doubt they will stick overly long with extraneous characters given their time constraints.

  1. The blood (or jelly) on Gaeta’s face does not appear to be the result of wounds to him (on the face) - agreed?

Absolutely

  1. So, who was on the receiving end of the violence? And why? (And was it Gaeta, somebody else or more than one who was on the giving end?)

I’m thinking one of the 8’s. The reason I say that is I am making the leap that the scenes that appear to be Gaeta flashing back to something is him flashing back to new Caprica. I can see him snapping again. These people have GOT to be suffering from severe PTSD. Having multiple copies of cylon’s can not be helping that. Gaeta having had close proximity to their machinations on New Caprica would make it even more intense for Gaeta. Especially in an enclosed area like a Raptor as well as an intense scenario having been seperated from the fleet.

  1. Assuming, of course, that all the blood is not the result of trying to save somebody. I am going with more of a MacBeth scenario, however.

I would agree.

  1. If Gaeta dealt out the “punishment” there is one person whom he would be most inclined to pummel - it seems to me - if not outright kill - Baltar. Gaeta knows better than anyone what Baltar did on NC - and as a consequence what he is capable of in the future. Baltar dying early in the season - now that would be a shocker.

I guess I already answered this one for you. :wink: My thinking is they will not rejoin the fleet untill the end of the arc. I’m thinking that scene with the countdown clock is definitely a time left for oxygen suppply. It also appears to me that Gaeta is the only one present.

  1. Gaeta is not the FC. Redemption and the OGG. Despite his “collaboration” with the Cylons on NC it occurs to me that nobody in the whole cast is less in need of redemption than Gaeta. On NC he was, essentially, a spy for the resistance. Nobody was at greater risk than he, if caught, including Tigh. Otherwise, from the start, he has been unfailingly reliable and competent. And talk about low maintenance. Also, the FC is female, Eddie Munster or Mike Ditka.

I am of the firm belief that “redemption” is in the eye of the beholder. Gaeta still feels guilty for having followed Baltar in the first place. I would not put it past him to feel that some of the events on New Caprica he should have been able to prevent, no matter that he couldn’t have. I can’t put him out of the running yet.

  1. On his “relationship” with Hoshi - I agree with others - I suspect (and hope) that the writers will establish it as one of the, if not the, most stable on the show. That would be like the writers. These guys are just fine with each other - in the big picture. No real story here. Now (most of) the straights - well that’s a whole other story.

I completely agree.