i have a question. The Starwars series seems to imply that the ability to be force sensitive is related to genetics in some degree.
So if the Jedi teaching asks the Jedi to avoid emotions, pretty much avoid love life, would there be less and less force sensitive people in the universe after say… 5,000 years?
Here’s what Wookiepedia has to say about the Sand People:
Yeah, the midi-whatevers were a plot device for Ep. 1 (so that there was an objective measurement of Annie’s force-whatchamacallit.) Note that they’re never mentioned again.
So if the Jedi teaching asks the Jedi to avoid emotions, pretty much avoid love life, would there be less and less force sensitive people in the universe after say… 5,000 years?
It’s fine to love 'em, Padawan, as long as you leave them…
yeh if the people (jedi) that carry that gene don’t reproduce it would probably happen sooner than that…which brings up the point that the midichlorians were a huge mistake UNLESS everyone had midichlorians and ANYONE could be taught to use them??? like if you were at the forrest gump level on the midichlorian scale??? and your mama slept with the dean of the jedi academy to get you in??
I always thought it was the negative emotions, hate, anger, fear etc. I think the Jedi ability was in everyone and the strength of it like many talents goes in families. I do understand what you are saying. If Jedi do not have families then where would the next Jedi generation come from.
My gosh, you’d think the Star Wars universe was like Dune or Middle-Earth. And, I guess, in its expanded form, it is. Wow, this is pretty impressive. But, c’mon – the Tusken Raider we see knock down Luke in Ep IV is named URoRRoR’R’R? Gimme a break!
I also especially liked this bit:
Sand People fire upon podracers during the Boonta Eve Classic in The Phantom Menace. Humorously enough, they are accurate enough with their fire to actually hit one of the podracers, in spite of Obi-Wan’s Episode IV comment, “these blast points… too accurate for Sand People. Only Imperial stormtroopers are so precise” (although stormtroopers are notoriously atrocious shots in the original trilogy (see Stormtrooper effect), but this can be attributed to their rifles).
It is rather confusing, that’s saying a lot for me 
, how midi-chlorines and force sensitivity works. Is it random or genetic? There are a number of cases in the EU that implies that genetics are involved. For example, there are certain alien species who have a much stronger connection to the force than normal. Then there are some species, like the Yuuzhan Vong, who are immune to being sensed by the force. Also the Skwalker/Solo clan is very strong in the force. Those individuals are all descendants of Anakin.
Good point. While mistakes may have been made in raising Anakin, I think it’s arguable that they had to be made to ensure he went to the Dark Side. What I wonder is if any of the mistakes that were made that lead to the formation of the Empire could be attributed to Yoda or the other Jedi. It seems to me that Darth Sidious was too powerful and that he simply out classed the Jedi despite their best efforts.
It was also mentioned that maybe the whole virgin birth thing is explained by Palpatine manipulating the birth of Anakin himself. This is the classic irony in that his quest for ultimate power by making an extremely powerful apprentice, he also seeded (IYKWIM) the roots of his own destruction…
it still comes down to choices though and free will…he chose…poorly…not all abused children become vader haters…but i like the irony of the emperor (or plagis) sowing the seeds of his own destruction…
has anyone else read joseph campbell?? cause that whole prophecy to me is george lucas cramming hero with a thousand faces/power of myth down my throat! in 4~5~6, he was telling a mythological story, 1~2~3 he’s showing the archetypes wrapped in shiny special effects…
I also have to comment on the concept of a “Rebel Academy”. I would doubt there is any such thing. Rebelions aren’t given the luxury of official academies. In the American revolution most of the troops were just civilians, and the trained officers came from the Colonial military which was part of the British Empire.
From this deleted scene you can see that many rebels were actually deserters of the Imperial Star Fleet.
On a different note, its funny seeing this seen for ANH. While it is informative with some backstory, it also gets bogged down in some of the political issues that were so key in the Prequels but largely absent and was left for the audience to infer in original trilogy. I can see how if this scene were in the original release it would make the story come to a screeching halt…
this footage actually points out another inconsistency…IT IS A PERIOD OF CIVIL WAR…hmmm…north & south…maybe he was going to the rebel academy?? without this scene, he was going to join the imperial academy!!! am i understanding this correctly??
No question about that. When writing the first movie GL read The Heros with a thousand Faces and other works by Campbell. After ROTJ Lucas even formed a friendship with Joseph Campbell.
Also, to make it clear for everyone, Sean was right when saying that Luke was going to join the Imperial Academy. I think the line in ANH is when Luke is at dinner and talking with Beru and Owen. There is no Rebel Academy.
here is another moral/ethical dilemma i would love to have explained to me: in phantom menace, obi wan is on the “anakin is dangerous, it’s a bad idea to train him, qui~gon why you gotta go against the coucil all the time?” bandwagon…he SAYS to qui~gon “the boy is dangerous, they all sense it why can’t you??” now i don’t think that obi~wan is so indoctrinated into jedi dogma that he can’t think for himself and even IF that were the case, i don’t think he would betray his own beliefs simply to fulfill qui~gon’s dying request that he train anakin…can anyone help me understand this?
and i heard sipho dias was explained in a book that gave the backstory about general grievous???
It might be unsatisfactory, but I actually do think this is one of the few emotional things in the prequel that makes sense. It is, I would imagine, pretty frakkin’ hard to say “no” to your father-figure or beloved mentor’s dying, “deathbed wish.” How would Obi-Wan have been able to live with himself if he hadn’t taken Anakin under his wing? I wonder if it haunted him all those years on Tatooine between Eps III and IV – maybe he even communed with the late Qui-Gon about it – but I suspect he felt he had to honor Qui-Gon’s wishes, even if he had his own reservations. At that point, after all, he was still the padawan.
I hate to end every post I do in these threads with, “If only Lucas had entrusted more accomplished writers with this story!”, but…! Livia, you have raised an issue that shows exactly why Lucas should’ve, and why the prequels are so frakking frustrating at every conceivable turn.
don’t encourage me!! LOL!!
[QUOTE=Mike P;57655]It might be unsatisfactory, but I actually do think this is one of the few emotional things in the prequel that makes sense. It is, I would imagine, pretty frakkin’ hard to say “no” to your father-figure or beloved mentor’s dying, “deathbed wish.” but I suspect he felt he had to honor Qui-Gon’s wishes, even if he had his own reservations.
that does make sense…i’m all about if i give my word i stick by it too which is why i don’t make promises i can’t keep!! 
another thing that puzzles me as well ~ why the council would sense and be presented with proof that anakin had the potential to be the most powerful jedi the galaxy had ever seen and say ‘nope! no training for you! you can just stumble around on your own and maybe inadvertantly find the dark side…’ i mean, why wouldn’t they want to help him use his powers for good…i’d a been happy if they’d just zipped right over that to the final outcome, skipped the drama, and simply said from the start “we got more important things a happenin on naboo…we’ll take care of that then tell ya what we’re gonna do with the kid!”
Something else to consider about Obi-Wan taking on Anakin’s training and Yoda changing his mind is the prophecy about bringing balance to the force. The Jedi initially were being, with the exception of Qui-Gon, cautious when considering Anakin for training due to his age and attachments. Then all a sudden the (sorry Barb) hits the fan on Naboo. This is the first time the Jedi have sensed the presence of the Sith in a millennium. They give into fear and pin their hope that Anakin will help in destroying this Sith presence and bring balance to the force.
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Well, since the Sith “made” him, they’d probably just find him and train him anyways.
ooo i like that ~ the jedi gave in to their fear and changed their minds…
the age thing has always been a bother as well cause i felt like yoda was just playing with obi and luke in empire…kinda testing to see how badly luke wanted it all along knowing that he was gonna train him…i always pictured the jedi academy as a school you got accepted to and i LOVED the younglings but you could join at any age but obviously they wanted them from birth to like age 16 or something and it was funny in empire cause luke was what 18~20 not optimal age for a “soldier” but what choice did they have?? when they started denying anakin training ~ a little kid with incredible potential ~ it becomes a joke and not a very funny one…
come to the dark side is really all i’m saying…lol!