#224: Sneakers, Stargate Time Travel, 1969, FSL 2.0 Team Selection

This week: We wrap up our heist arc with a look at one of our all-time favorite movies – Sneakers. We kick off an analysis of time travel in the Stargate franchise with the SG-1 episode 1969. We choose our Fantasy Sci-Fi League 2.0 team. And we run down the week in geek!

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BTW, the show I sent to Chuck was Corner Gas, the episode he’s referring to is “Hurry Hard”

That little room that Cosmo and Bishop have their “private” talk that Audra mentions is actually a computer room housing (and they sat on part that looks like a circular bench) a Cray Y-MP, a multi-million dollar supercomputer that was one of the worlds fastest computers in the early '90s.

Yay for Chuck liking Rodney now. :smiley:

No references to the aliases O’Neill used during his interrogation? That was one of the funniest parts of the episode for me.

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The episode Sean was talking about was The Shrine from early Season 5. My favorite Rodney episode is Duet (Season 2 Episode 4). Oh, and Rodney’s sister is played by David Hewlett’s sister, which makes the episodes she’s in even more awesome.

Voltron live action? Sean scream

How did I not hear about that. Who is making it? Americans or Japanese? American made movies tend to suck. G Savior, Robot Wars, etc.

The thing that gets me when I watch Sneakers is the baud speed they use.

Few things about Voltron. In the EVE Online Alliance Tournament today, one of the commentators had a Voltron (Lion) shirt.

I’m a huge fan of Voltron. It was the first “anime” along with Starblazers that I watched as a kid. I actually liked the Vehicle Voltron better than the Lion one. And, there’s a hour long special of the two Voltron and Voltron teams meeting and fighting together.

As I said, I’m a big fan of Voltron. The summer after my ninth grade year, I started a story about a kid with a disability finding a giant robot that crashed landed and merging with it when the robot teleported with him inside of it. I managed to type many pages (13+ chapters) of it on an electric typewriter. When I started college, I got part of it published in the college fanzine. I never and can’t finish the story now because I’m not th same person I was back then. I’d have to restart.

Anyway, I’ll leave with these vids.

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I like the statements from 3:25+

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Lion opening.

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Vehicle opening.

The narrator in the openings may sound familiar. That’s Peter Cullen, the voice of Optimus Prime. He was Commander James Hawkins, Coran, King Alfor, Narrator, and prolly a few more.

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Adding Fleet of Doom (the Voltron team up movie) Part one. You can find the rest under the same uploader.

Sorry guys. You just happened to bring up one of the things I’m rabid about. d:

So I must contend that it is possible to be outside the lower age range of Sean’s guess for liking Voltron. Voltron (along with GI Joe, Dinosaucers, Denver the Last Dinosaur and (dimly) Bucky O’Hare) was part of my early memories of Saturday morning cartoons. And at that age I thought it was the be-all-and-end-all of awesome.

Actually, in college, a friend of mine used BitTorrent to get me a bunch of episodes of Voltron (I forget exactly how many, but I have to guess around fifty or so). I started to watch them, but there was a big gap between smiling 5 year old and 21 year old, and it may take time to get to being able to appreciate it for what it is. In any case, I’m now 23, and I was totally behind you and understanding when you talked about how awesome Voltron was. I just hope they do a good job translating it.

Also, I’m pretty sure the fool in Shakespeare Audra was referring to was Feste from Twelfth Night. I’m more sure about the character name than the play. My professor considered Feste to be the prime example of the ‘wise fool’ in Shakespeare.

About the Fantasy Sci-Fi League. At first I was like “yeah!” then I was like “ooh (sad)” and then I was like “Hell yeah” as I went from knowing it was coming to hearing it was just the draft to getting the announcement it would be posted online in the next day or so. I’m getting geared up and ready for it (lots of rewatching shows going on).

So that’s enough from me for now, I’m going to go wait and plot before the challenge appears.

I was a big fan of Voltron as well (and I do fall in the 30-40 age range that Sean mentioned). I wish I still had my blue lion. I think I still have the big green and yellow tiger from He-Man. Must help mum clean out the basement one of these days.

Count me in on the “Make Jeremy Clarkson an Honorary American” action. Like y’all said, he’s very entertaining but he’s also routinely condescending about the US. He seems to be nice to American guests but anyone else across the Pond is “fat and stupid,” which is just such an easy joke. Granted, I cringe every time they show that episode where the guys travel through the South because I want to feed them sweet tea and fried chicken and assure them that we’re not all gun-toting rednecks.

Sneakers is on the way from Netflix as I type, so I’ll revisit the podcast once I’ve watched it.

been a while since I said this…now’s a good a time as any…

There can be only Juan!!! :smiley:

Oh wow, Voltron!

My cousin had the entire set of the Voltron, which was awesome to play with. You can take it apart, so it’s the five tigers, and you can put it together to assemble the Voltron robot (and the main tiger mouth opens to reveal the robot head as well). I just love the fact it has mouths for fingers and toes.

A favorite scene of mine in Sneakers that has no dialogue is the beginning of the party scene where we see Liz dancing with everyone.

Sneakers is on one of the movie channels this month, if you’re looking for it.

You have to remember that Top Gear has to entertain and the way I see it, they have roles to play

James May - The serious but sensible one, the joker of the pack (the one they pick on for comic relief)

The Hamster - I think he plays a bit of the common guy, the one that we’re supposed to be like, he has his funny moments as well as his serious side

Clarkson - He’s the bully of the group, the one that has to be right, the one that has to be loud. Plus he wears jeans on the time!!!

You have to remember that Top Gear is largely scripted (even though it won awards in the non scripted category). Therefore, they are all playing roles.

Plus I think he’s of the same vein as Howard Stern, he says things to shock and entertain…He himself as said that his views are not to be taken seriously.

“Top Gear is just fluff. It’s just entertainment - people don’t listen to me.” - Clarkson

Plus he loves cars and since the US is a car producing nation, I thin he really loves ya :)…Those us shows are just for entertainment value.

That and he has a Ford GT…nothing more american than that :slight_smile:

I know he sold his first one, did he buy it back again?

BM:

re: Top Gear

First of all, you should know that we – at least Sean and I – are huge fans. We’ve seen every single episode (many more than once). So when we poke at it, we do so as one of the fold. :slight_smile:

Second, I love making fun of Clarkson. I like to think that if I was actually, say, at a cocktail party with him and poked at him the way we did on the podcast that he could handle it – hell, that he’d probably enjoy it. There’s nothing better than folks who dish it (for real or in fun) and can take it (for real or in fun). Seriously!

That said, he is a pudgy motherfrakker. :slight_smile:

And we’re completely serious, re: his new status as a GWC-Appointed Honorary American. When I get some spare time (don’t hold your breath, unfortunately) I’m going to get Sean to crank out some official-looking documentation which we can post online and send to the Top Gear offices. I’m sure they need some circular-file filler. Or maybe some bathroom tissue. :slight_smile:

re: Clarkson’s GT

You’ve seen the whole bit, right? From the early seasons where he (pseudo-fake) panders to get in line for one, bitches about the price, and finally receives one to the later episodes where it spends 99% of its time in the shop and he whines incessantly about it leaving him stranded over and over? Classic, classic stuff.

Oh yeah i know, he seems to be the sort that can dish it out as well as receive. I catch TG now and then but it tends to be the bigger specials. I do like watching the celebrity in a decently priced car.

I thought he did have one but got rid cos it was giving him a backache or something. You prob know more than me.

Heres a fact - James May has the same car as me (Panda) and the hamster lives near my location. Some colleagues of mine see him all the time on the motorway.

Do you read James May’s columns in the telegraph (telegraph.co.uk)?

I am away at the moment (holiday on the East coast), and have to yet to listen to the podcast fully. Hopwever, thanks for watching Sneakers, it is was one of my favourite movies EVER, and what first got me into the heist genre. A little bit of trivia, which I do not know if was mentioned, is at the time of the films released the NSA really did have a project called “SETEC Astronomy”…

The best episode for Rodney is “The Tao of Rodney.” He gets this close to ascending…

Re: 1969- Does anyone have the deleted scene where O’Neill conceives Cam Mitchell? I can’t find it anywhere…:wink:

The episodes that have Rodney’s sister in them are among my favorites, when the two of them bicker I always crack up, and I love the fact that she is smarter than him:). The episode where Rodney is trapped underwater and begins to hallucinate about Samantha Carter in order to mentally deal with the stress was pretty sweet. Oh, and Rodney is in SPLICE…

Voltron suffered from the same sickness as Gotchaman, it was soooo dumbed down and had almost all of the violence removed in order to make it safe for kids to watch. But because it was so NERFED there was never any sense of urgency or fear that someone might be in danger, in other words… no tension.

For me, it was the fact that Voltron was gonna win (i.e. whoop sb) once he finally formed that frakking Blazing Sword. Why didn’t they just always form it right after combining? :rolleyes:

Chuck–

Maybe you’ve fixed it since, but you missed a bleep around 2:09:42–don’t want you to lose your iTunes clean rating!

You know, the first thing I did was go to that point and listen to hear it for myself. I should probably be ashamed.