#220: Heist Movies, Ocean's 12, Star Trek Douchebags

LOL. Yes, I love that “Tess as Julia Roberts”.

How is the audio commentary on the Ocean’s DVDs? I’m a sucker for a good one.

For those of you wondering what happens to Jellico in the future, that’s covered in the Star Trek EU in the Star Trek New Frontier novels.

As any true Star Fleet douchebag does, Jellico rises to rank of Admiral.

See Wikipedia entry below (and in typicial wikipedia style it distorts the facts implying that Jellico was an Admiral when he took over the Enterprise in “Chain of Command” but that is not true.

For those of you who are dying for Jellico to be punched in the face, you get your wish in the Star Trek New Frontier novels. Captain Calhoun (who is more of a cowboy than even Kirk) does indeed punch Admiral Jellico in the face at one point :smiley:

Edward Jellico

Admiral Edward Jellico originally appeared in the TNG episodes “Chain of Command Parts 1 and 2” (as played by Ronny Cox), at which time he held the rank of Captain. As the New Frontier series began, Jellico was the admiral serving over Sector 221-G. He had a rather hostile relationship with Calhoun, although this relationship has softened over the years…

January 2011…have to wait until 2011 for teh next book. damn damn DAAAAMMMMNNNN!

Are you sure he survived the Destiny reboot trilogy? Some of the leadup to that almost ruined the Trek EU for me.

Yeah, I think so. Think all of Excalibur folks survived.

Tho it’ll be interesting to see how it effected them.

I kinda liked it actually

Man, I’m loving the trek douchebags arc; I never really got in to TNG, and it’s good to have an excuse to watch some of those classic episodes.

One thing that really solidified Jellico as a douchebag for me was after he benches Riker, he promotes Data to be his first officer. Data is a fine officer, but what does it saw about a captain who find people so hard to work with he’ll pick a robot to be his Number One.

The not-so-fun part of this arc…Riker’s speech about Jellico reminds me of one of my supervisors. :frowning:

Well, to be fair, Data is the Second Officer, so he would be next in line. Remember in the two parter where they think Picard is dead and Riker gets abducted, Data is in command.

Lots of what? Visible ribs? Yeah, that I agree with you on. Not cool.

Here sthe thing for me about this…honestly, it seems like Bay said “We have a Victorias Secret model in Transformers…yay”. But she’s not hotter than Megan Fox, she’s just a replacement.

How about Gemma Arterton…she’s in the Prince of Persia flick…she acts, she’s used to green screen type stuff and…uber hot.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2605345/

I know! January 2011!! How can I wait that long? And they left it at such a jaw dropping Admiral Nechayev cliff hanger!!!

Now, I understand why there are laws against cloning. But I think author Peter David should be cloned. That way his clones can work on his comic books, his humor/fantasy books and his Star Trek novels in parallel.

I’m writing to my congressman RIGHT NOW! (It’s gonna be kinda on old letter :o )

I am so enjoying the Ocean arc - love it !! Seen then all about a dozen times.

Hey NothingButtheRain…where ya been hiding?

I’m pretty sure Audra was thinking of an Apple IIGS.

http://oldcomputers.net/appleiigs.html

Hey, too much work, not enough real life, though I have been listening to the podcasts faithfully, Now I hope to be back. Thanks for the welcome back :slight_smile:

I actually agree with Pike on this one. Terry Farrell who played Dax on DS9 went from modeling to acting. The first few episodes of DS9 are a little shaky with her tech speak, but she really gets good later on.

Aww cool! That’s a great website - thanks for the link. Now that I look at the pics, I was thinking of the Apple IIc, which we had in my sixth-grade classroom, but that was in 1991, apparently seven years (!) after its release. And back then it was still kind of new to us. I can’t imagine trying to work on a seven-year-old computer now.

Just finished the Oceans 12 part of this because I finally had time to watch the movie. My favorite moment which nobody mentioned was this:

Rusty, while wearing sunglasses and an overcoat: “Look, it’s not in my nature to be mysterious. But I can’t talk about it and I can’t talk about why.”

Not a big oceans fan; especially 12 but I thought for folks that do love a good heist movie. I have a recomendation, its an older movie called the good thief, I belive it was a remake, but i have yet to see the original. Still a really good movie very character driven, its got a great and different twist at the end. think if last tango in Paris was a heist movie

It totally is, because I’m trying to figure out which of those was the computer my parents had when I was a kid in the 80s, and that I played Reader Rabbit on (hey, I was a little kid! in the 80s!) - and I’m pretty sure it’s the Apple IIgs, good memories :smiley:

That’d be ~= a 12" PowerBook. I was using one until last year.

Halfway through listening to this podcast and loving it. Have to say that I’ve only watched the Ocean series on a superfical level - Just taking it for what it is. Now I will have to go back and analyse it on a deeper level.

I love that they show Capoeira as a good thing rather than the negative view that hollywood loves to portray.

A part of Capoeira is that it is all about respect, but it also contains an element of deception and redirection. What I like is there is a concept called Malicia which is perfect for a master thief. Maybe that’s why they chose it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malicia

I think it’s an important element that may explain the relationship between the ocean gang and the nightfox guy.

BTW - My first computer was a C16, C64 then I had a mega drive then a 386