Transformers Re-Watch

A little background here…I seem to fall squarely between Sean and Chuck as far as the Transformers go. I clearly remember holding my first Optimus Prime in fourth grade and thinking,

</Keanu on>

Woah.

</Keanu off>

However I was just over the age where I watched the shows consistantly, if at all…I had moved onto different fare such as Voltron and Robotech, so I am not as steeped in the lore as Sean is.

That being said, I was excited about the movie but didn’t get to see it in the theatres due to family events. Based on your guys discussion and this rewatch I marched a few blocks and picked up a copy and watched half on the train ride home and half after the wife and daughter had gone to bed.

First impressions/reactions: Overall I was impressed with the quality of the narrative. I thought Shia LaBeouf was truly excellent, believable and empathetic in his portrayal of Sam. I won’t do a complete character analysis of all the actors, let’s just say they all did a tremendous job save one (see my nits and nats below).

To discuss the effects is to belabor the obvious and well covered ground. They were excellent and even outstanding at times. Kudos.

Nits and Gnats

  1. I’m sorry…but I found having two completely drop dead gorgeous women completely distracting. Every time Maggie Madsen (the NSA chick…no, I didn’t remember her name either) walked on the screen it pulled me out of the moment. I am not saying beautiful women cannot be smart, what my problem is that she occupied the screen because she was gorgeous. If you are going to have a goddess level woman like Megan Fox in your movie…let’s just say multiple models is distracting and doesn’t drive the narrative.

  2. Autobot slapstick. I will never, ever, ever forgive Michael Bay for having Optimus Prime say, “My bad” after stepping on Sam’s Mother’s roses. Ever. It destroyed the rest of the scene for me. I couldn’t accept these leviathans trying to hide as anything but ridiculous and nonsensical. I love humor, but the best humor comes with respect of the subject matter. Having Optimus Prime say, “My bad” diminished him somewhat and left me wondering if anyone understood what he represented.

  3. John Turturro. <blink> What the hell was he thinking? Seriously? I am a John Turturro fan and I thought he was just awful in this. I can appreciate the “make a cheese sandwich out of the cheese” sentiment of Chuck’s, but there is a line. I have a personal feeling that Michael Bay couldn’t control John as an actor and John thought, “You know what…I am going over the top on this…who cares…this isn’t Shakespeare” and Michael Bay couldn’t reign him back. Trust me on this, I have been in enough theatre productions where one of the leads refuses to take direction believing their way is the best way and ultimately ruin a production. John should have played this completely straight, rough and serious.

Overall, I think this was an excellent movie. I am looking forward to my own rewatch where I can watch this on a screen larger than my laptop. They had an excellent attention to detail (Megatron flicking the person was priceless) and a story and characters I cared about.

Thank you guys for getting me to go pick this up. It was awesome.

Seriously… and not just on the Transformers front… I have so much random trivia about a hundred cartoons and comic books that sometimes it all gets jumbled together… LOL

As a kid I seem to remember that they explained that… (See above post though… :wink: ) Kind of like the All Spark which shrunk down into the rubik’s cube so Sam could run with it… Truth be told though, as much as I am about nostalgia and respecting the past, Megatron’s plane was way more cool then the gun ever was… LOL

Well it is hollywood, so things generally turn out that way. They also did “kind of” address this in the movie when she said to Sam “Regardless of how things turn out, I am glad I got in the car.”

I think this was an homage to the original cartoon series since there was a bit o’ slapstick in the OG cartoons, so I totally liked it. I also think it was in part because they established that the Autobots learned English through the world wide web… so that type of vernacular would be used.

  1. Sorry - couldn’t disagree more. Megan Fox is definite goddess level hotness (already being compared to Angelina Jolie by a few folks, and she is now in my top five) - but there is nothing wrong with added uber hotness in the film. For instance, Six and Sharon. Both goddess level hotness, but it doesn’t take away from any storyline on BSG. (Course the writing and acting is really strong so it would take A LOT to drag me out of it…)

  2. I agree wtih you here. The slapstick was funny inteh beginning, but then it almost trying too hard. Like Michael and co. thought “We need something to appeal to young kids” and went too far. Not Jar jar level bad…but just too much.

In my opinion - and just mine alone

On Shia - dude has straight made his career - first with this and next with the Indiana Jones flick. He can pretty much ask for anything he wants as long as he doesn’t go all Orlando Bloom and start running folks over.

On Bay - folks talk craaaaaaap about him sometimes - but dude knows how to make cool things blow up. Camera shots, intensity - just really top notch work here.

On Megan - I’d like to be on Megan (who said that??) - ahem - for a breakout role, she really came through. She chooses her roles wisely, she’ll be great

On the movie overall - honestly, was never a fan of the transformers. Hardly ever watched the series etc. I went in with moderate expectations. it simply blew my frakkin’ mind. The effects were jaw dropping…like “Damn, you guys can actually DO that now?” The story was ok, not Oscar caliber, but that’s not what you go to these movies for. Still, there was an emotional tug (for example, where Bumblebee got caught - that was just rough) and if you can feel something like that for a special effect - you got some kinda writing going on in there.

Awesome and just fun…

Thanks as always for the podcast guys!

Dave

I am sorry/happy to say that I haven’t seen Transformers yet, partly due to to my aversion to mega-hype and the fact that I just couldn’t get all my kids together for a movie-show…however, Friday night, tonight, my three sons and I have the house to ourselves, wifey visiting friends, I am going out this am to buy the dvd, there will be popcorn, pizza, and whatnot !!! I can’t wait !! A 53 inch screen at home with 6.1 Dolby beats a seat with 300 chewing talking cowatchers anytime !! And THEN I’ll be able to read/comment…

So what time should we be there ?? :wink:

Sounds like a blast, you will love the movie. Unlike most, it lived up to the hype.

I’m trying to figure out when to re-watch. Da wife doesn’t want the Pink one to watch it yet because of the “what are you doing in there!” scene. But she really really wants to watch it.

Just got back from Paris, listening to the podcast on the plane, I picked up my copy of the movie… and it was almost better than the first time I watched it :slight_smile:
Now I want to bid on this (unless Sean really wants it)

If I only had at least 55,000. :frowning:

I could forgive the Quick cuts and slick editing, but does Mr. bay have that same damn tree at sunset in every frack’in film. Still I could have looked over all of that, (cause of cool giant robots that transform and all) but bumblebee is not a camero.

End rant my apologies

P.s. :cool:Star scream:cool: pones all other transformers.

Is it just me or does the background music when Frenzy is hacking the POTUS mainframe remind you of music from Sneakers?

please help, i can’t download this :frowning: when i hit the download button it opens a quicktime window. when i try to save it, it says i need quicktime pro. wtf?

We watched the movie Friday night, Saturday afternoon, and I think my son had it on in his room this morning !! Kickass movie, I really enjoyed it. Bay balanced the action and relationship factors well, and the humor was actually funny most of the time ! Now, I was a little confused as to all the bot’s and con’s names, having been a little too old to get into the original series, but it got better after a second viewing. Shia L seems to be one hell of a young actor. Megan F made my teeth hurt, goodness she’s a hottie. I wish I had seen this at the movies now ! Good thing the wife was out, I turned up the subwoofer as high as I could. The dog and both cats left the room.

watched it again this weekend - dunno what made me gasp more–the effects or that shot of Megan Fox’s stomach when she looks under the hood.

Hmmmm, that’s a tough one. Now if Megan Fox popped a sword out her forearm and lopped off Devestator’s head with it I would say she wins hands down :wink:

hmmmmm - yeah, I agree. Megan Fox having a sword pop out here arm would be cool…but if she transformed into a semi…not so much. Now a Ferrari…there ya go.

Now…you had to use “popped a sword” and “Megan Fox” in the same sentence…

…my brain hurts from restraint…

LOL!! MUST…NOT…MAKE…THE…SWORD…COMMENT

Not sure if it was mentioned yet and I could be wrong since I only saw the movie in the theaters, but I think the police “To Punish and Enslave” car was a Mustang, not a Charger. Totally unimportant, I know.

And the sequel has been greenlit. Bay is supposedly working on animatics right now and it should hit theaters in 2009. They were able to get the original writers back and will have an even bigger budget (good, since the robots were the stars of the movie). Supposedly they want to do something with the dinobots, which I have a very limited knowledge about (I only know what Sean’s told us).

Nope Barricade is a charger… a sweet charger :slight_smile:

Me Grimlock Love the Dinobots!

Wikipedia to solve the question…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barricade_(Transformers)#2007_Transformers_film

“a Saleen S281 (a modified Ford Mustang) police car”

:wink: