Awww man, I hope Lois didn’t have pink eye too!
Which is why I truly love Frobishers secretary.
This isn’t enough. Not nearly enough.
None of these people should be getting away with what they did. :mad:
Of course - isn’t it always our fault :rolleyes:
Oh yes she would dare.
No, but at least some get what is coming to them.
I love that Jack waits - knowing full well that Alice is not going to talk to him - he is alone, truly alone.
I was surprised at the other woman taking over, it was her plan they executed, even if she was advising the PM.
Yeah, but Lady with a Plan taking over after him seriously pissed me off. They should all be fed to Weevils. Slowly. :mad::mad::mad:
A lot of dirt on his shoes … now that’s an understatement!
And as he says, the planet is too small for him.
I sit here and ask myself, if faced with the same question, if I literally was given the choice to sacrifice one of my children to save the lives of millions of lives of other children, what would I do? I’d like to say I’d be altruistic about the human race, but truly, I am the kind of person who would rather let other people shift for themselves. There. I’ve said it. That’s the awful truth. And the beauty of my motherhood–I love my children like a lioness. I cannot bear to think of giving them up or willingly allowing harm to come to them.
Rhys is such a gentleman.
Jack looks like a being from another world there.
tears coming
No you are not - Jack you are not OK.
Running from his grief is not good. But I get where he is coming from. He blames himself for everything, all the way back to Suzie.
This is hurts so much.
“You cannot just run away.”
“Oh yes, I can. Just watch me.”
Just in case we could still like Jack after what he did. :mad:
How could a “hero”, any “good” guy, ever come back from this? 
Oh I think we can find a far better death for them - a slow painful death - maybe let the Master at them.
Although I guess Weevils will have to do.
Here Here!!! Reminds me of Sophie’s Choice.
Well if you think about it, it makes sense that humans have evolved to feel that way about their own children. So as non-altruistic as that thinking is, I wouldn’t fault yourself for it.
Which is what I find as interesting. How are they going to “save” Jack from himself and allow him to redeem himself.
What should be interesting is if he shows up in Who how are they going to deal with this whole chain of events. What would the Doctor say? Will Jack tell him. The Who audience is used to a very different Jack. Although maybe he needs the Doctor to “save” him again - maybe he does need to travel with the Doctor for awhile
If they do get a 4th season - how do they bring Jack back? Will Gwen be apart of Torchwood now that she has a baby.
I am kinda of annoyed that we don’t get to see Jack with really dealing with his grief over Ianto and Stephen - we skip past that. Maybe they will have him visit Ianto’s grave or something.
I also sometimes think as much as I love this show, and want to see it continue I would also be OK with it ending here.
Do I want them to redeem Jack - absolutely. But is is possible to do that in Who.
Would I love them to bring back Ianto - absolutely (not that I think they will - it would somehow cheapen his death)?
Do I really want the series to end? Not really. After I got through the hurt and anger over Ianto’s death. And the fact that they made me pissed off at Jack, but he truly didn’t really have a choice - it was his grandson (and in turn his daughter) or 10% of the worlds children.
Jack has always had to make the tough choices - most of the time to save humanity as a whole. And everytime it is something or someone he loves. In this case it was 2 someone’s he loved.
Dude the Inside Look - was even harder to watch then the series. The end they did flashes of all of he people as Jack says their names.
I guess I never thought that we may get TW in a different universe/time dimension. It may be away to bring Gareth back with out cheapening Ianto’s death…it woudn’t have to be Ianto and we could watch Jack try and deal with his guilt over Ianto in a different dimension where there are copies there to remind him of Earth all the time.
Wow…ik am so sorry i didn’t get to Frak with you all but i thot that was an amazing arch. My initial thots. I think…i know…Jack did the right thing. It was one of those horrible things but one for millions…and unlike the government Jack paid the penance for the sacrifice. I was glad both Gwen and Rhys made it thru. i was so worried that when they were being chased by the soldiers that one of the two would get shot…probably Rhys. I think its the wrong move for Jack to run but i can understand it. I think the one person on earth who can save him is Gwen. I think i can see him searching for the Doctor and blaming him for not being there when earth need him. I can see him also blaming Rose for giving him eternal life. In truth the gift that was given to him has turned out significantly more good than harm.
As for the continuing series. (which i am certain will come back. i belevie the shows had amazing ratings in the UK) I think Jack will come back after he resolve some of his issues maybe a couple episoes in. I think that there is a chance they could bring back Capt. John Hart to fill in for Jack. John needs to have some redeeming as well.