So, how are you holding up? Bucket needed? Hair intact? Badger still alive?
The look that Gwen has as she looks over Ianto reminds me of the Pieta. I’m sure it wasn’t a coincidence.
Yeah, I’m good. I think because I just started watching TW, I’m not as attached to the characters. I’m sad, but not devastated. I can understand how someone who has been watching the show longer would be devasted at Ianto’s death, though. The storyline, the giving of the children, that isk appalling to me.
I think he comes back relative to how he dies. Violent=loud, quiet = slight gasp
Trivia note (if noone else already said this) the Mr. Yates character is played by Mr “Dalek Supreme” Nick Briggs, the voice of all Daleks, Cybermen, half the aliens on Doctor Who…
That makes sense, although the death by Abaddon was pretty excruciating, so it doesn’t really hold true over the series.
OK - so my over reaction, now that this episode has aired.
I decided after I watched this episode I never wanted to watch Torchwood again - I was that pissed off. This is saying a lot because I love TW almost as much, if not as much as I loved BSG. I wasn’t sure I could even go back and watch the previous series. It hurt to watch any scenes with Ianto in them. I even considered cancelling my copy of this series I had preordered.
I was even considering not watching the 5th episode, never watching TW again.
I did decide to watch it, and I can now go back and watch episodes, although I still have trouble watching Jack and Ianto interact in previous episodes.
I was sad at the end of last series (I am trying to be vague because I know some have not seen the previous series), this made me violently sad and ill at ease - I was a wreck. Luckily I had a half day at work and went to visit friends - so I got away from it for awhile.
The more I think about it while I am sad I can see why they did it and I will be able to watch TW if we get a 4th series.
I do however think that Ianto’s death was more devastating for those who have seen the other 2 series, not that it wasn’t devastating for those who had Series 3 is their first exposure, but for those who have seen the relationship grow from Teaboy to Lover over the last 2 seasons it was utterly devastating.
Excruciating b/c he had to die probably a billion times, but when the shadow passed people just fell over dead.
True, but he screamed… for a long, long time. :eek:
That is a possible explanation, but there are other times where this doesn’t seem to hold true like Badger said.
I would have to go back and look at other episodes.
Jack’s line of “Don’t leave me please” kills me that and the last line - “there is nothing we can do” (sorry that was quite random, but the just played it again on the Inside TW thingy)
I hear what you’re saying, I guess I just felt more sadness rather than anger after seeing Ianto die. I guess CoE has just been so dark and depressing that between this and [spoiler]Owen and Toshiko dying in season 2[/spoiler] it was only a matter of time before another of the original cast kicked the bucket.
True, but I didn’t want it to be so soon. And I am HUGE Jack/Ianto fangirl. I wasn’t sure I wanted to continue to watch with out that relationship there. I have calmed down a lot, and I have a bit more to say, but have to wait until tomorrow to say it.
For a bit I didn’t know if I even wanted to watch this episode again. I was able to make it through and while it still makes me sad and upset, it doesn’t make me violently sad.
For a bit it was all I could think about - it took me forever to fall asleep that night and the next night. I even had weird dreams about it.
You know I may finally hit OG during tomorrow nights Frak party, or shortly there after - it only took me almost 2 years (have 7 times that on Skiffy in only 6 months more).
Actually i think my watching MI-5 (Spooks) has gotten me ok with main characters dying. I mean by Series 5 all but what One main character is dead or off the show. At least we thus far still have Gwen and Jack.
I am OK with main characters died, I was just really, really invested in the Jack/Ianto relationship - I tend to do things in extreme’s at times and a read a lot of fan fiction revolving around the 2 of them.
Like I said, I have calmed down and trust the writers/producers/creators - I now have flipped to I am interested to see where they go.
I am interesting to see how RTD and Barrowman do at Comic Con - I think there are more then one pissed off fangirls/boys that may just let them have it over this episode. I just hope those people don’t make fools of themselves or piss of RTD or JB and ruin things for the rest of the fans (I don’t think RTD and JB would do that - they have thick skins). I will be interested to see what they have to say now that the entire show will have been aired here in the states.
Ahhh…I was pissed then they “killed” off Rose in season 2.
I can see that, although Rose isn’t my favorite companion. I like Martha the best, which is funny because I didn’t care for her much when she was in TW. And I like the actress in Law and Order: UK.
I had a real issue when they killed off Kara in BSG, but not a violent reaction, just a really really sad one, kinda like when [spoiler]Tosh and Owen died.[/spoiler]
I added a few spoiler tags through the last several posts. Obviously, events from previous series are not technically spoilers, but considering that this miniseries has been the first exposure many have had to Torchwood, I just figured it might help to retain a little mystery…
I started out trying to be obtuse, but it is hard. No biggy.
In the future, it might be good to clearly define what people want us treating as spoilers. Especially since by default I would have thought that if we’re frakking season 3 of a show, seasons 1 and 2 would be fair game.
No big deal, just erring on the side of caution. You’re right, of course, they’re not exactly “spoilers”, per se. In any case, if people want to read them, they still can.