The Tori Sucks Thread

Okay guys! This is the thread totally devoted to reasons why Tori sucks. BSG fans disagree on so many things, but the one thing we can agree on is that Tori sucks

And maybe you love this show for the fact that it makes me want tor each into my screen and punch Tori. yes, I love to hate Tori. But, tori still sucks.

man,s he is such a power hungry idiot. I’td be a little better if she did not walk around like she was fraking God. How can she kill Cally in front of her son? grrr…And then she hits on Tyroll. What the frak!

TORI SUCKS! I’m getting pissed just thinking about it lol

Tory sucks because she hasn’t helped Roslin keep perspective the way Billy used to.

Piiiiipe!

Where’s my pipe!?

Amoral, power-mad, duplicitous, Murdering Balcubonker!!

Tory BAD! bkitty SMASH!

Tori sucks…I agree…I was very disappointed that she reverted to her pre-loving-herself-as-a-cylon self when Laura confronted her about sleeping with Baltar. She reacted the way good, old-fashioned Tori would have - pathetically. New Tori would have found a way to bring her down, not cry like a baby in bed with Baltar…Tori, if you’re going to be a superbitch, be the best superbitch you can be for frak’s sake!!!

And now I’ll throw a wrench into the assertion that “BSG fans disagree on so many things, but the one thing we can agree on is that Tori sucks”

Because I HEART TORY.

She’s not made the best decisions in the history of the show but… wait… besides Helo, who has?

Plus, she plucks Baltar’s hair out one by one. I’m a fan of that (and lots of other random things about her, too, but this isn’t the place for it.)

It doesn’t seem (so far, at least) like this group of Cylons has any hidden programming or operational directives beyond the certain knowledge that they are in fact Cylons. And yet Tori chose to be an evil bitca. Hence, sucks.

I can’t wait to see when the Conservative Party in the UK sues against RDM for all this hate of Tory.

You know, I think I am going to have to be a dissenting voice here. I think I can sympathise with and understand some of her actions.

Let’s look at some of her history which is used against her:

1. Rigging the election.
True, she attempted to ‘massage’ the election results, but this was out of a deep loyalty and belief in Roslin, and knowledge that a Baltar victory would have been a disaster for the fleet. (As events subsequently confirmed.)

2. Sleeping with Anders.
What’s wrong here? Kara was dead. This was the action of a free individual who shared comfort with a recently-bereaved. It’s not like Anders was forced or anything.

3. Screwing up at press conference.
Big deal. She had not been sleeping, had been hearing music, was under huge stress. everyone makes mistakes at times.

4. Finding out she is a Cylon.
Surely one cannot be blamed for one’s ancestry? This is not ‘Old-Testament-Vengeful-God unto the third and fourth generation’ territory, surely? Hating her just because she’s a Cylon is like hating her because she’s ‘not white’: racist, offensive and absurd.

5. Sleeping with Baltar.
Why should she not? Among the ‘haters’ do I detect a whiff of ‘moralising’? Looking at your own sexual mores, and thinking that others should behave as you do? In the BSG universe there does not appear to be any particular opprobrium directed towards people who exercise personal sexual freedom. Baltar, Kara, Lee have all had multiple partners and I don’t recall negative or derogatory comments directed towards them.

6. Religious/personal conviction conversion.
So, she believes she’s perfect. So what? Roslin thinks she’s Napoleon, the Pied Piper and Joan of Arc rolled into one. Baltar thinks he’s Jesus Christ and has imaginary people in his head. When does one’s religion or belief system become a reason in and of itself to hate them? So, she’s bought into Baltar’s drivel. She’s not alone there.

7. Hitting on Tyrol.
She’s not the only person ever to see a friend (and in this case a friend in an incredibly complex and peculiar situation) in need of comfort, of a friendly face, of a warm body. She knew Tyrol was having marriage problems; everyone knew Cally wasn’t the most stable and rational person. Tory’s flirting may have only been just that: a little ego boost for the Chief. But even if she offered more, again, it’s not illegal.

8. Killing Cally.
True, this does not look good at first glance. But she did save Nicky. She did likely save the lives (and at very least the freedom) of her fellow Cylons on Galactica. In the end result, without Tory’s intervention there would have been one woman and one small child dead. Instead there was just one dangerously unstable woman dead.

9. Working with Roslin.
Roslin admitted that Tory’s performance had improved! And although Roslin later felt betrayed by the relationship with Baltar, and suspected that Tory had provided him with his ‘inside information’, we objectively saw that it was not Tory who leaked. Again, she was loyal, despite that loyalty not being acknowledged by oh-so-superior Roslin.

So, really, the only ‘bad’ thing here could be the killing of Cally. I’d suggest there were quite some mitigating circumstances: self-defence, saving of Nicky, likely saving of fellow Cylons, perhaps even a feeling that her destiny was to be more significant than Cally’s. Not a perfect excuse, I admit, more of a justification.

But remember, plenty of others on Galactica have committed ‘crimes’: the kangaroo court members, Baltar, Lee, Anders to name a few. Some seem to be able to accept these all far easier than Tory.

Laura’s Airlock-Fu is stronger.

Yes, R.S ! That’s what makes it so difficult to use generalizations like “hate” on these people. When you look at each character’s arc throughout the show, you can easily pick out times when they could be loved or hated ! And although I’m having fun with the whole “Tory Sucks!” thing, because she offed poor Cally, Tory’s motivation was self-preservation and the preservation of Nicki…if the FF were to remain secret, there really was no other choice for Cally…it’s another shining example of the good/evil rollercoaster that we’ve come to know on BSG. At the moment we’re up in arms because of the shooting of Natalie (a Six), when our first introduction to the model resulted in the deaths of billions !! (and the baby neck-snap, which was so disturbing at the time, but after all we’ve been led through by now seems almost innocuous!

What is going on here? You call this a “Tori Sucks Thread” thread?
I came into this thread looking to see pictures of Tory sucking on peices of thread.
Sheeesh…false advertising.
I’m gonna go look at the painting of the Centurions playing poker again.

Sorry. The Quiznos sponsorship fell through.

She’s a ruthless bi–clear throat. She kills Tori,a nd doesn’t even care. And shes fraking Baltar hahahaha

Oooooo…“Kills Tori”, you say? Nice Freudian slip there, my dear. :stuck_out_tongue:

I think Tory would be harder to hate without the body, the long flowing hair, the beautiful skintone…I never had this reluctance with Freddy Krueger from Elm St.

Does that make me shallow ??:mad:

Must… Resist… Joke… about Roslin’s last order to Tory

I can’t think about that right now, I’m thinking of something else.

I’ll be in my bunk :o

Don’t aggravate The Rash.

Yeah. Enough with the hate threads. This is a kind and gentle forum. With a different, better class of people having positive discourse.

…with the exception of discussion about Cally. Cally deserved everything that she got. :smiley:

That’s it !! I’m sending a detachment of Marines to Solai’s…Launch Raptor…:mad::mad: