That’s not all Simon did. IYKWIM.
that part was actually very nicely done
The Elephant is from an imprint fake human memory. In the episode Downloaded, Boomer had the exact same elephant in her apartment on Caprica. It’s probably a signal to trigger her cylon awareness.
Well Cavil really just wanted to teach the final 4 a lesson.
Cavil evidently boxed the only one of his model who was at all reasonable.
I’ve seen a lot of comments on twitter about the music - particularly the end credits re-working of the main theme (the vocal bit), so I thought it might be fun to link Bear’s blog yet again 
I started watching this last night and I can’t imagine someone who’s not a fan of the show already being into it. It’s so obviously for us. Strangely, though, the “quotations” from miniseries/season 1 and season 2 scenes being referenced in the movie throw my suspension of disbelief a bit and I therefore find them distracting. Since I’ve not seen the whole thing yet, however, I can’t really comment (or read the pages of comments here) on the structure of the thing, which feels rather nebulous to me right now (though I’m liking how every cylon that comes in contact with humans for any prolonged period starts questioning “the plan” and how Galactica Cavil seems to purposefully avoid prolonged contact with humans).
I describe it as a great treat for fans. A lot of little bits that I really love.
That being said: As far as this being a film, I think it’s the worst film ever made that I actualy like! It just isn’t a story (if you have to try to really reflect on the show to see the story… that’s not a story) It’s a collection of treats.
Still… I don’t see how one could be a BSG fan and not own ( or download legaly) a copy. It is a part of BSG.
Indeed. Although I wouldn’t have minded continuing to have mystery to my BSG. I liked thinking that Shelly Godfrey was a physical manifestation of the “angel” Head six, rather than just another cylon in the fleet. Then again, the attack on the colonies looks frakking unbelievable, so it balances out.
Treats indeed.
I generally liked it, though it certainly wasn’t up to BSG standards editing wise. It was formless and crawled at a snail’s pace in some places.
Other than that, it was fabulous. Loved seeing new BSG content!
Some thoughts:
God, Cavil is a huge douchebag.
I love that Ellen goes to strip bars for her afternoon pick me up.
Loved the SFX, CG work is top notch (why can’t SGU look that good?) and I absolutely loved the battlestars.
More hybrid is always good.
I knew Cavil was going to kill that kid the first time I saw him.
Not enough Leoben in my opinion.
Great to see some other side of Simon.
Also, Cavil had some amazing lines. “It’s called a suicide vest but I think that really undervalues the homicide involved”
Generally, it’s just a succession of scenes meant to edify fans. And it’s absolutely great.
From a conversation with a friend, this is part of my opinion on The Plan:
“I think people were disappointed that (spoiler) there was no real plan. The ‘plan’ was Cavil dicking around and getting pissy when things didn’t go his way. It was like that old saying, “Man plans, God laughs” except with cyborgs and in space. I really liked that it drove the point home that Cavil is a gigantic petulant child in an old man’s body.”
I think I actually kind of like Cavil now, since he’s such a d-bag and he did it in such an entertaining, if “ME ME ME” way. Also, I can’t help but like the Dorals now. I love how they’re the idiot Cylons who get stuck with the crap jobs like shoveling bodies and blowing themselves up.
ok, about the plan…
I think before the final 5 arrived to distract the cylons from continuing the war, the cylons larrys were sort of like Terminators with out the skin (which the Cylons were attempting to remedy). And Colonials were dumb enough to put AI in control over their weapons.
So the Colonials did a lot better job fighting them than humans in the Terminators, but I get the idea that they weren’t really winning the First Cylon War either.
When the 5 cylons of earth, arrived to warn the Colonials about inevidable conflict between machines and “organics”, they found that they were too late. So instead they exchanged humanoid cylons and ressurection for peace between the colonials and cylons.
But besides the 5, the other cylons still wanted to kill all the colonials. The 5 obviously created the 8 other models and tried to teach them to live in peace with humans which got on Cavil’s nerves because he felt the final 5 should love the cylons more than they love humans.
So besides carrying out his plan to teach The Final 5 a lesson, Cavil did have another plan.
He implemented the plans of the larrys’ dreams, to wipe out human race with human looking cylon infiltrators. So there was a plan, and it nearly did its job. Only that there seems to be external god like forces making sure that both cylons and humanity carries on.
I thought the movie helped say that much.
Though I didn’t like the part about “They don’t even know what we are doing for them”.
I think the remaining 7 cylon human models decided dumbed down the Larrys at some point. Like in the show when the Sixes enabled them to think, Larrys got angry and killed the Cavalry. And I actually would like to hear that part of the story.
I loved it, even though it was obviously not written as a stand alone piece (which surprises me). On the one hand that makes this sort of disjointed and almost precludes you watching it with someone who doesn’t know the show well.
On the other hand, it’s kinda flattering they made something totally aimed at fans with no secondary motive to pull in a new audience.
I loved…
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[li]Simon![/li][li]scenes of the colonies and their cities[/li][li]an explanation of Shelley Godfrey’s disappearance[/li][li]Boomer’s multiple personality disorder[/li][li]Cavil’s little B story from the 1st and 2nd seasons we never knew about[/li][li]just seeing more BSG. period.[/li][/ul]
Nitpicks
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[li]Nuclear weapons don’t just knock out power and start a few fires…they flatten cities![/li][li]when they explained Shelley Godfrey they created a new mystery of the fate of the prostitute Six that replaced her. I don’t think she was ever found.[/li][li]Would like to have seen the formulation of The Plan leading up to the attacks such as discussions on how, when and why, as well as inserting the Cylon operatives in the colonies.[/li][/ul]
Over all, it was a good geek out.
RadioPicon, I couldn’t have said it better myself! I do, however, wish they’d kept Shelley Godfrey a mystery (or, at least, validated my theory that she was, indeed, a physical manifestation of the “angel” Head Six).
The Cylons just want to kill all of the humans in the universe, but the Cylon attack is scheduled for the very day that the only military vessel in the colonies that is immune to the Cylon virus is scheduled to be decommissioned.
After waiting 40 years, they couldn’t wait another week?
And that very same battlestar, has two of the Final Five aboard?
And a sleeper agent Eight?
And a Five who is just there for that day?
And the Commander who violated Cylon Territory?
And the Lady about to become President of the Colonies?
And “harbinger of death”/”savior of humanity”/”Bob Dylan ghostwriter” Kara Thrace?
And in a few short hours, betrayer and future Love Guru, Gaius Balter?
There is more to The Plan than meets the single red glowy eye.
“I saw penis.” – Jane Espensen
I don’t think Galactica is immune to the Cylon virus. It’s just the way Adama ran Galactica is immune to the Cylon Virus. Had Adama been a more easy going person, and not insist his ship be ran like it was 40 years ago, Galactica would been disabled as well. Then again, had Adama been a more easy going person, he’d probably been a Admiral before the fall of the colonies.
Since I remember the first wave of Viper Mk. 7 from Galactica also went down due to the Virus in the mini-seires, I am guessing that even though Boomer is on board, the Cylons might not have know Galactica wouldn’t be affected due to Adama’s anti-networking stance on ship running.
I’d always had the idea that she used some kind of “pocket FTL” or something :).
I know that doesn’t make sense with Cylon technology in the show, but the first D’Anna Biers also sort of disappeared so I thought that’s where they were going with that. Now, I’m guessing D’Anna also airlocked herself.
Well, there was the Cylon plan to destroy humanity then there was “God’s” plan to save just the right parts of humanity. Fate, if you will. That explains all the convenient coincidences in the show, and I think it does it pretty well.
I should have been more specific. Galactica wasn’t proof against the virus, just resistant to it. Because of having non fly by wire Mk II Vipers aboard and Adama’s old fogey attitude toward networks.
(Young whippersnappers. In my day, sonny, all we had were 1’s and 0’s, and sometimes we didn’t even have 1’s.)
But I would think that the Cylons would know all those things. Since Six had free run of the defense mainframe, she would have been pulling valuable information out on ship deployments and specifications, as well as pushing deadly viruses in.
Boomer could certainly have been given the task of putting the virus into the systems manaully, or putting love sick puppy Chief up to unknowingly doing something fatal to everyone aboard, or frakking Galactica up right before the attack on the Colonies in any of a hundred different ways.
My thought was, with the fact that the attack happened just as Galactica was about to disappear into the pages of history; and given the number of VIP’s and VIC’s who were on board just before, during, and after the attack. That the attack was triggered in some way by the fact that Adama and crew were preparing to retire to Scotty’s fishing boat.
I don’t believe that it was an accident that Galactica surrvived while everyone else got their exit visas stamped. Galactica survived because it was somebody’s Plan.
(Mace and Lenny’s car is being blasted by a machine gun)
Mace: Don’t worry, the glass is bullet-resistant.
Lenny: Bullet-RESISTANT!?! Whatever happened to bullet-PROOF? ! ! !
"Strange Days"In MY day we had I or nothing. And we LIKED it!
D’Anna comments in the screening room at the end of the episode “Final Cut” that the two Cylon raiders who were destroyed, were lost covering her escape, so that she could carry the video of Hera back to the Cylon HQ.
(The Galactica universe seems to have a lot of difficulty transmitting video remotely. Ron Moore talks about this in the “Razor” commentary that being able to see Six remotely on a video monitor in “Razor” was a continuity error that the writers just could not figure out a way to avoid.
But I guess that having FTL spaceships available to hand carry the video message more than makes up for that little technological limitation.)
The Real Final Cylon
Yeah, but what was her escape? I never heard she stole a raptor or that she donned a space suit and jumped out an airlock to be picked up by a raider. It’s still a mystery to me.
Not sure I ever noticed a problem with remote video. Weren’t there monitors in the brig control room that Tigh turned off when he went in with Six?
I always assumed she just stuck around, not doing anything important until the fleet got to new caprica. Once the cylons came, everyone realized she what she was, and she went to live with the cylons.