Star Trek XII given an early greenlight

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Quoted from TrekWeb:

According to Variety, Paramount Pictures has already greenlight a sequel to their upcoming new Star Trek movie (which TrekWeb will be calling Star Trek XII), and has hired Roberto Orci, Alex Kurtzman and Damon Lindelof to pen the screenplay, for a likely summer 2011 release. Here are excerpts of their report.

J.J. Abrams, who directed and produced the latest chapter, is onboard to produce the follow-up alongside his Bad Robot partner Bryan Burk. No decision has been made yet on whether Abrams will return behind the camera for the sequel.

Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof also are receiving producing credit on the sequel.

As for potential storylines, Kurtzman stressed that the writing team will wait to take a cue from fan reaction about which direction to go.

“Obviously we discussed ideas, but we are waiting to see how audiences respond next month,” he said. “With a franchise rebirth, the first movie has to be about origin. But with a second, you have the opportunity to explore incredibly exciting things. We’ll be ambitious about what we’ll do.”

#2

beat me to it–nicely done!

#3

It’s tough getting info on here faster than you, Operator!

#4

As much as I hope/expect Abrams’ film to be great and great fun, it does seem a little bit like putting the horse before the cart to greenlight a sequel before the first movie even debuts. I guess it is some Hollywood industry thing I don’t understand. Is there precedent for such a move? (Outside of planned trilogies and simultaneously-filmed ventuers such as Superman I and II, Back to the Future, The Lord of the Rings, and the like.)

#5

Batman begins was one as well. Dark Knight was pretty much greenlit before Begins hit theatres

And yeah it’s definitely a Hollywodd/Paramount thing. besides, the movies was technically finished a few months ago (original release date was December I beleive)–so the insiders have pretty much seen and made a descision already.

#6

Cool, a good sign for the new movie then

#7

Well, they’ve got me for both XI & XII, most definitely.

#8

That’s a good point, although if by some weird space-time anomaly the movie happens to tank, I expect all decisions are subject to review?

#9

Congratulations–you’re thinking like a Hollywod exec… :smiley:

#10

while I am and have always been a star trek fan, I have admitted to the fact that some of the movies were not very good.

That said…

I have great faith that J.J. will turn trek into something that it is not. I have a very low opinon of J.J. and everything he has ever done. my stomach turns everytime I think of him in control of trek.

I feel i am facing my own Kobiashi Maru.

my gut feeling is. … Like remaking Rollerball without the social comentary or remaking Planet of the apes with the social comentary, we will see trek without the social comentary and it will just be a wiz-bang action flick that the trek name need not be associated with.

(yes i Know jj did not direct either of the movies mentioned.)

#11

WWKD?

Orion Slave Girl

#12

change the rules…

I thihk it will be ok for the die hards. Yeah there will be some missing pieces or chanegs in a place or two…but overall, I think they will remain very faithful to the overall legacy.

…adn rememeber, another certain show we all watched started off with many complaints like “You can’t change that” or “You shouldn’t do that” or “You can’t amke Starbuck a girl!!!”…and that seemed to turn out ok:D

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but here is the thing.

Normal mainstream amreicans like trek because the stories are great and kirk is awsome.

Nerds and people that were never accepted by society like it because “they had asians and black people in the crew, it’s a vision of the futue that is so great” It’s 2009 , who realy needs the social comentary. We need stories about exploreres. Who cares about their race and culture.

Most people just want to see a great story. See some ass kicking fighting and story and not worry about social comentery.

I have never met a “normal” trek fan that says that Wrth of Khan was great because haveing older people… or minoritys ( I am saying that to represent social comentery) is why that movie is grreat. They always say they like it because it is a great story. It had acation and just simply ruled!

We live in 2009 not in 1967. I don’t think JJ needs to worry about anything except telling a good story.

I am sure that the chick that wears her starfleet uniform to juty duty would diasagree ( because trek represents the only way that she is accepted by anything)… but all the normal people with jobs and friends will be on the side of JJ. (if it is good)

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Then change the conditions of the test. :slight_smile: Go in expecting a solid, whiz-bang, action flick, and your expectations will be met.

As I’ve said ad nauseaum by now, I don’t understand why so many fans are so nervous. OK, so maybe Abrams has made some whiz-bang, less-than-cerebral action flicks. But isn’t he also the driving force behind “Lost”? I’ve only seen the first season, but that seems to have good writing, strong characters, high production values, and a large following. Same with his late series “Alias.”

As for “will it or won’t it be true Trek” (I know, not your words, but many fans’ sentiment): what is true Trek? (At the risk of sounding like jesting Pilate.) There are fans who still contend that Nicholas Meyer and Harve Bennett “turned Trek into something it is not.” And yet what are generally regarded as the most artistically and commerically successful films in the franchise? ST II, ST IV. (Yes, I know Harve Bennett was involved in all the post-TMP films, I’m just sayin’).

Star Trek has never been monolithically in-step with Roddenberry’s original vision (thank goodness, it would never have survived). It’s always been a collaborative effort, and I am (maybe overly, but there you go) optimistic that Abrams will prove a worthy collaborator, bringing something new and vaulable to the Trek table. If nothing else, it sounds from many interviews that he gets the core of the Trek idea, optimism about the future.

Again: let’s just give it a chance! (Holding hands and singing Kum Ba Yah, of course, optional. <g>)

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See that is the problem exactly. Everything that we have been shown does not and will not give us confidence. Be it the bastardization of the Big E to soo many canon violations. Not to mention the the casting miscues. Who the heck puts a comedian in Scotty’s role and doesn’t even match him to the charater type. So now we have Scotty doing comic relief with a receding hairline to go along with his receding chin. ARGH!!!:mad:

Ok ok back to my happy place… Nah, Where did I palce that phaser rifle?

#16

Slide over Talos, I think we have to share the blanket…

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Yes that is very true… Roddenberry despised many of the elements that made Star Trek II my favorite of the all time is Star Trek and many of the things that I followed over as a kid, mainly all the military aspects.

Given the darker time we now live in, post 9/11 and all that the campy can’t we all get along Star Trek of old may not hold as much meaning today. Look at how we all loved the dark BSG. I posted on here long ago about star trek being redone with more darker elements, star fleet being called a military, real guns ect. There may be some of that in the new movie, hell they may even use this weird thing called money!

In this new movie… I hope that is more than a action movie and there is a deep story with symbolism even if it is hidden or obvious, and that what I fear might be missing.

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I think you can glean just from the trailers there is going to be “meaning.” Kirk is struggling to find his destiny. Spock is torn between two worlds. Nero is [spoiler]so afraid of his future he feels he has to go back and change the past (presumably). [/spoiler] The meaning may not be deep or profound, but it isn’t always in Trek, and it’ll be there.

Again – not sure why all the angst. New warp nacelles count as “bastardization” of the Enterprise? And yet a couple of throwaway lines about “a refit” satisfied everyone that the ship in TMP was the same as in those 79 original episodes? C’mon. :slight_smile:

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Yeah but the Refit Enterprise in TMP was so much more cool looking than the one from the TOS!

#20

It’s not the fact that it was refitted. It’s what the refit looked like. The TMP version looked good. This new one looks likes the Tailfin Club did the refit…