Well I’m heading off to bed! Sorry I missed the first half of the movie. Should be able to be here for tomorrow night’s frak though.
Didn’t they get the memo? It’s 2009, frak the revolution, we’re going to wear pants. !!
You said it, mister.
Can I get a little info on how they managed to convince a studio to make another movie after this one? IMO, this is the weakest of the five I’ve seen, so how did 6 get made?
Makes you think about doing a George Lucas on the movie. Redoing all the special effects. Editing it so it works better. Removing that awful Romulan ambassador chick.
Nah, it’s too broken to fix.
The Admiral Obama pic is awesome!
“The Q Continuum” has a non-canon explanation of this being, as well as the force on the ‘outside’ of the galaxy that transformed the guy in the TOS pilot. I read them back in my teens at some point, if I remember they’re a pretty interesting read. They’re set in the post-First Contact TNG universe.
I should also mention:
Although it is not mentioned in the finished version, Sulu and Chekov took their hiking trip in the vicinity of Mount Rushmore. A deleted scene on the DVD shows them visiting the monument, which has had a fifth face added since its original carving.
You can see the scene on the Special Collector’s Disc. I wish I had screen-capped it. The fifth face is an African-American woman (not Uhura).
I shouldn’t have made such a big deal about the 7.6 cm hemline to crotch thing.
I’m turned you all against the pantsless revolution.
To quote Memory Alpha:
The Undiscovered Country almost was never made as a Star Trek film, due to the dismal box office receipts of The Final Frontier. It was only to celebrate the upcoming 25th anniversary that Paramount approved of a sixth film.
It was made to celebrate the 25th anniversary of Star Trek.
After I read what you wrote and I wrote the same thing I went over to Memory Alpha to check the source. There isn’t one cited. I remember hearing about it in the Star Trek magazine with all the prepartion for the 25th anniversary.
So we’re having a revolution against the revolution? :rolleyes:
OK. I can see that. Thank you hivemind.
Amen to that.
This was a case I’d say that we can also be greatful that the studio stepped in and took some control. If Shatner had got his way and gone for real God direction (combined with the cheeziness) it would have been a disaster.
But by changing it, it made for some nice moments without a screwy conclusion.
Okay, me, I’m very very non-religious. But I really got caught up in the period of the film where they’re about to discover what they think is God. The suspense worked for me. Now, I would have been pissed if they really DID find the real God in the movie, but I like how I got to have my cake and eat it too.
Well, goodnight guys, it was fun.
Maybe I’ll see you tomorrow.
Good nite. Glad you could be here!
Having had some time now to digest it:
It wasn’t bad. It wasn’t fabulously funny (read: Voyage Home) or really awesome (read: Wrath of Khan + Search for Spock), but it was entertaining. I enjoyed the Spock-Kirk-Bones banter as always, and Spock still brings the awesomeness (well, he is Spock). The idea of searching for the fount of all wisdom in the divine is an interesting one, but certainly the execution is off, and there is a lot that could have been done to make the story line smoother. Like not have Uhura have the hots for Scotty. But generally, not as bad as I was led to believe.
Thanks ThotFullGuy
'night NBTR, I’m following your lead and also heading off, see you all tomorrow for VI 
Good Nite Dr. Cas.
Beautifully put.
Yeah. As Audra said at the end of podcast #160. Many haters just gotta hate. (I’m paraphrasing of course) I had an argument one time with a hater who said, “It insults my intelligence.” I replied, “It’s a movie. So, you don’t have a problem with a terra-forming planet rejuvinating Spock or beaming up 2 tons of whale blubber or…(I went on but you get the point)…you’re nitpicking!”
Chuck put it best, you have to hold on to the great stuff like the Bones and Spock following their friend.