Star Trek 1x24 Space Seed

Dude. Ask 'Talos. I can close my eyes and pick one. :smiley:

Yeah me too. Sleep.

Ok. See yall for KAAAAAAAAAHN!

Like I said, I would love too. But I need some sleep. Craaap!!

If Badger’s up for it. You guys can go to CBS and watch one of my favorites. Who am I kiddin’? They are all my favorite. Anywho.

Arena

It’s the one with the Gorn.

All definite must-sees. :slight_smile:

I was thinking of something more extensive, though. Obviously, we’ll do all the movies. We’ve got some time, but give it some thought.

I wonder why that one’s so special to you. :rolleyes:

Unfortunately, I’m also exhausted. I think that’s it for me, as well. :frowning:

WTF! I feel asleep and missed the Space Seed party?
And, swear to the gods, I feel asleep while ready a Star Trek novel.
Wow, irony sure can be ironic sometimes.

Ooooo, which novel?

Was it the Eugenics Wars: The Rise and Fall of Khan Noonien Singh?

Or something from the Shatnerverse?

Actually, no. I haven’t read the Eugenics Wars novels–but I’m intrigued by them–so if you or anyone, has read 'em I’d be interested to know what you think.

Here’s what I was readiing: A month or so ago, I was looking around in my dusty attic and I came across a trilogy of Star Trek books called: My Brother’s Keeper.
Specifically, they’re called My Brother’s Keeper: Republic, My Brother’s Keeper: Constitution; My Brother’s Keeper: Enterprise.
I remembered liking them, and since they came out around 1999 it was long ago that they’re ripe for re-reading.

The story starts at the events of Where No Man Has Gone Before, when Kirk has to deal with the loss of his best friend (Gary Mitchell). And from there the story is all flashback as the devastated Captain Kirk opens up to Spock and tells the story of Gary and Jim’s friendship. The death of Mitchell is really the event that begins the friendship of Kirk and Spock.The books are divided up by three of the ships Gary and Jim served together on: The USS Republic, The USS Constitution, and the USS Enterprise.
Great stuff, Talos, you’d love 'em.

RE: Mitchell’s death and the friendship of Kirk and Spock, that’s what I always thot. They sound really good. I really enjoy the background stories of the crew. They become “out of their element” stories. I’ll have to look them up.

In preparation for tonight’s Wrath of Khan frak party and on the recommendation of Topgun, Frakkintalos, and ThotFullGuy, this complete ST noob just watched her very first ST:TOS episode, Space Seed.

My first reactions: It was incredibly over the top. The over-acting and silly stunt work were fun and amusing once I stopped letting them distract me. The story was great (though I must say the writing was odd, at times treating the audience like a bunch of half-wits with all the foreclobbering and then throwing Milton’s Paradise Lost in there. Huh?) I definitely had to reign in my modern-woman self to get past the dismissive way the female characters were treated. (From the get-go! Kirk treats Uhuru, the

communications

officer, like she’s an idiot when she interprets the communications they’re receiving! I almost turned it off right there. Does he belittle all the officers for doing their jobs? But I told myself to get over myself and kept watching.) I did like the give and take between Kirk and Spock. Their comradery was fantastic, from the inherent trust and respect apparent between them to the gentle ribbing Kirk gives Spock.

All in all, a fun show. I will continue to watch, and give it a chance. It’s not what I’d normally go for, but I refuse to make a final judgment after only one episode. And all of you fools can’t be wrong, right? :smiley:

All three books should be arriving in your mailbox today. Enjoy! :slight_smile:

Actually, yeah, Kirk isn’t afraid to get in his officers’ faces and even do their jobs for them. Watch the helm, he’s constantly jumping down to push their (literal) buttons. Uhuru does get to snap back at him in Naked Time.

Fools? Yes. Wrong? No :rolleyes:
It’s really cool to hear your perspective. You’re first Star Trek episode! I gottta admit the blantant sexism in the show is pretty outragueos when looked at from today’s perspective. But watching it as kid in the 70s, I wasn’t aware of that stuff. The Kirk - Spock comradeship…and you can add McCoy too… is really the heart and soul of the show. There’s also some episodes that make good social commentary–but not this one as much.

That’s a good observation about Kirk. It’s the kind of Captain he is. He could literally do anyone’s job on the ship (aside from perhaps sciences and medical).

You weren’t aware of it because TOS was very progressive for its time (which says a lot about the times.) It’s not that Kirk was lambasting his Comm. Officer, it’s that she was a she. And a black she to boot.

Yep, it’s just so typical. First, you let them go into space. Next thing you know, they’ll want to vote and own property. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yeah, well said. And to think the 1st TOS pilot had a woman as XO!!

How can you keep them down on the farm once they’ve seen Ganymede?

Not to mention how problematic “barefoot and pregnant” will be in those snug Star Fleet uniforms. What kind of space explorer could you be without go-go boots?