Star Trek 1x13 The Conscience of the King

Why on Erf didn’t I see that coming?

crazy chick with a gun–yeah, Sean would think she’s hot

It really is. Well structured.
I’m pleasantly surprised every time.

ooh, those crazy eyes haunted my childhood. :eek:

Not sure if this was really my first exposure to Shakespeare, but it was definitely the first time I had an appreciation for tragedy as an artform.

And Kirk is as cool and brave and calm as can be

It’s no shock that this chick is a psycho. This guy has been harboring such pain for so long. The father’s sin on the daughter.

mine as well

This is RDM’s favorite episode:

I liked the backstory of Kirk as a young man caught up in a revolution and the nightmarish slaughter by Governor Kodos. I liked the Shakespearean overtones to the episode as well as the use of the plays themselves. And I absolutely loved Kirk in this episode – a troubled man haunted by the shadows of the past, a man willing to lure Karidian to his ship under false pretenses, willing to do one of his more cold-blooded seductions on Lenore, willing to fight with his two closest friends, and risk his entire command in the name of justice. Or was it vengeance? Kirk’s aware of his own lack of objectivity, his own flaws to be in this hunt for a killer, but he cannot push the burden away and refuses pull back from his quest to track down Kodos no matter what the cost. It also has some of my favorite lines in TOS.
The scene with Spock and McCoy in Kirk’s quarters is one of the series’ highlights. The brooding tone and the morally ambiguous nature of the drama fascinated me and definitely influenced my thinking as to what Trek could and should be all about.

Really? I never saw that Simpsons

I was glued to the 13" TV first time I saw this. The episode stayed with me for a week. I kept seeing images in my head.

They’re pretty much in every Halloween episode.

Cool!! Where is that from Talos?

Well said.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Conscience_of_the_King_(episode)

Memory Alpha is your friend.

So, quick straw poll:

Did Kodos do the right thing, under the circumstances as he understood them at the time?

Ahhh. The Kirk Smirk. He’ll never tell, but Bones doesn’t need words to know. Very cool.

This episode shows a key character background item for Kirk.
At a young age as a boy, Kirk was exposed to horrific death and decisions made about life and death (Kodos.)
That had to affect him as an adult–driving to always change the rules and cheat death and make the impossible happen where lives are saved against certain death. And he does it again, and again and again.

No, he was arrogant to make such choices himself in the way he did it.

No. He should have turned himself in. Instead he raised a psychologically damaged child.

Which novel was that in? ‘Kobayashi Maru’?