Seediq Bale

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOrHGjQzsWk

I’ve been waiting for this film.

It’s a historical epic about a Taiwanese aboriginal revolt against the Japanese back in the 1930s. The Japanese resorting to airforce dropping lewisite on the strong holds to put an end to the revolt.

During the making of this film, Taiwan was hit by the worst typhoon disaster in history (killed 677 last year) and all the sets were destroyed.

It isn’t easy making a movie in Taiwan, mainly because there is no giant studios dishing out money for the projects. So the director usually has to come up with the money themselves. The director and even the actors have to put their houses on mortgage to make the film, and they do it because of their love for the art and story.

It is still not out yet, but from the trailer it looks amazing. Everything from the authenticity to the music scores are at the highest quality.

Looks good. Always glad to see movies coming from unexpected countries.

Since the 80s, Taiwan is actually really good at making depressing drama or artsy movies that most viewers wants to kill themselves after watching…

Ang Lee is a well known example of that. Making the emotions a central character to everyone of his movies. They usually gets me pretty depressed. Not that they aren’t great movies… but how can anyone not be depressed after Brokeback Mountain…

Woodstock is probably the only exception to Ang Lee movies, because it reminded me too much of That 70s Show…

LOL !! :smiley:

Thanks for the tip. I will definitely see this. Looks good. I love historical dramas.

A huge plus about Seediq Bale is that this director is famous for breaking out of the “depressing” mold. His last movie was fun and moving at the same time.

And this looks like a exciting epic… granted the ending probably will be a bit depressing… unless they decides to go off history and do a time travel story about how Kirk broke the temporal prime directive and helped out the Seediq’s cause and stopped the Pacific War from ever happening… that sounds like a fun movie.

The English Official Website for Seediq Bale is out

http://www.seediqbalethemovie.com/e/index.html

Have to say the website looks more awesome than I would have expected. It says September 2011. Don’t know if that’s when it would air. Or if it would ever air outside of Taiwan…

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Full trailer

Apparently that last one was the teaser trailer, this is the full trailer.

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there was a crazy ass review by Bongkok Times of Seediq Bale’s debute in Venice.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/arts-and-culture/film/254633/venice-film-fest-kicks-off-with-clooney

Quotes from the Review

On the contrary, the other competition film screened on the first night flaunts its nationalist politics to such a humorous extent, quickly raising the question if Venice is sometimes too indulgent in its programming.

That film is Seediq Bale. Set during the Japanese occupation of Taiwan, the 150-minute film focuses on the passionate revolt of an aboriginal tribe of the island.

The proud leader of the exotically costumed tribe is Chief Mouna, a hot-blooded warrior who hunts boars and dives into waterfalls and doesn’t hesitate to shoot a child. When the Japanese army, portrayed as cartoonishly brutal and ignorant, begins its campaign of “civilising” the local savages, Mouna leads his people in a bloodied war against the well-armed invaders.

Seediq Bale was directed by Wei Te-sheng, a young film-maker who made Ha’i-kak chhit-ho (Cape No 7), Taiwan’s high-grossing film of all time. With more money at his disposal, Wei goes blithely over-the-top in a story that could’ve been less bombastic and more intense. It’s neither Apocalypto nor Avatar, though the film’s attempt to instill primal energy would remind you of those two superior films. The most interesting thing is the clear portrayal of the Japanese as an evil force; nationalism remains a hot currency in many parts of the world.

I made a comment to that article, but since Bangkok Times screens their comments before showing them, chances are my reply won’t see the light of day.

this is what I replied to them…

uh, the same director, Wei Te-sheng, made his name with “Cape No. 7” which is a movie about Taiwanese and Japanese romance across generations. That film caused politically charged people, especially politicians in China, to claim Wei is polluted by Japanese colonialism.

now that he made a film about an actual historical event, all of the sudden he is way too nationalistic? That kind of conclusion only proves that you have predetermined that making any Japanese the villain is nationalism.

about the cartoonishly brutal nature of the Japanese depicted in the film, are you not aware there are other Japanese in the film who are anything but brutal? The truly brutal characters come from the Imperial Army. If you have any historical knowledge you’d know that before and during War World II, being cartoonishly brutal is their bread and butter. They were a modern army who shared the same passion for chopping off enemy heads with those they refered to as “savages”.

Your conclusion about a film, that’s trying to be as authentic and historically accurate as possible, is only about Taiwanese nationalism, is about as valid as saying films about holocaust are all about Israeli nationalism.

Look, this is “Bangkok Post”, it’s not like the Japanese weren’t there in Thailand during WW2. Go watch Bridge over River Kwai or something. Or maybe go ask your family elders about how comically harmonious the Japanese Imperial Army was.

I went to see Part 1, finally. I’ve been busy with my thesis and didn’t have time to actually go watch it when it premiered.

It is gripping. Especially when the minds are made and they went ahead with the plan. From there on it was a none stop ride of adrenaline. The story was handled well. They really showed the struggle Mouna Ludao went through before making up his mind. Here’s a man who went to Japan and saw the military might of Japan’s modern army, and knew full well rebelling is certain death, but at the same time knew that doing nothing means the doom of his tribe and its traditions anyway. It took 30 years of trying to live with the Japanese peacefully to come to that sad and frustrating realization. And the actor (who is actually a teacher) brought it to life.

The Japanese weren’t demonized. Each Japanese had their own view of the “savages”, some looked down on them, some wants to be their friend, others just want to rule over them with respect. But in the end the system is setup to destroy their way of life, environmentally, culturally and religiously. The aboriginals weren’t glorified. Each tribe, society and tribal village may fight amongst themselves. When religious killing begins they have no regard of enemy women and children. I get where every character is coming from and that makes the story more desperate and realistic.

For a movie with relatively small budget (compares to Hollywood), I never had one moment where I went “they could have done this better if they had more money”. They movie was cut into 2 parts because it was long, and each part are 2 hours long, but when part 1 was over, I didn’t feel like 2 hours went by. I remember watching Pirates of the Caribbean 3, which was about the same length, and thought about how much time has past half way through the movie.

So, yeah, I am glad it was done well, and hope to see part 2 soon. At the same time, I hope chop down international version didn’t leave out too much stuff to become incoherent. After all, it’s hard to make a 4.5 hour movie into just 2 hours long…

some photos from Seediq Bale (pronounced Say-diyek bah-leh, not see dick bail)

Women of Seediq Tgdaya

Finally photos of war


conflicted Seediq who serves as a Japanese policeman, about to commit suicide along with his tribesman but with Japanese styled Hara-kiri… with an Seediq hunting knife.

read an excellent English review written by some professor.

http://savageminds.org/2012/01/04/seediq-bale-as-history/

Contemporary perspectives on Wushe are not necessarily objective. There’s a fuzzy boundary between subjective and objective. We try to be objective about the subjective. And being objective is really hard. Chinese and Taiwanese historians have interpreted Wushe according to their own worldviews, and in some sense it’s impossible not to, as we always write from a limited perspective; that’s what Gadamer was on about with the fusion of horizons (though alas it’s so often the confusion of horizons). I don’t think contemporary indigenous ideas about Wushe are necessarily more objective. Indigenous peoples have historical distance but might not like the humility that has to go along with it. At the same time, indigenous people’s views deserve special respect. It’s more their history than anyone else’s. I’ll try to critically discuss three indigenous perspectives on Seediq Bale in the context of my discussion of subjective and objective history in Seediq Bale.

I’ve been hyping this movie on my own for a while, but the 2 hour cut version of this movie is now showing in the US, well, at least 12 cities in the US and Canada. So those with an interest in historical drama could check it out. I’ve only seen the 4 hour version, so I don’t really know what to expect from the 2 hour international cut. I’ve heard good things about it tho.