S04E08 - Sine Qua Non Episode Discusion <spoilers>

Sky really came through for us. Up until the very last minute I was almost sure that they were going to pull the episode. Anyway I thought I’d start a discussion thread for those who saw and those who will see it shortly when it is made ‘availible’. I’ll leave the opneing post free from spoilers to prevent them being visible on roll over.

That was an interesting episode. No word on what happened to the basestar that jumped away. But we did get Romo and a new president. One thing about Romo, I wasn’t sure if he was actually totally insane and going to shoot Lee or was it some sort of test. I really hope it was the later.

A new president and a new commander of the fleet. I wonder how good Tigh will do in his new job. Especially considering his situation with the Six.

So thoughts on the episode anyone

there is a torrent of new information i must investigate.

if you know what i mean…

Are spoilers allowed here in this thread? Just saw the episode on Sky…nice episode, moved the chess pieces on a notch and created very new situations for at least three characters.

It’s clearly labeled spoilers, so anyone who has yet to see the episode is forwarned.

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Doh - sorry - just jumped in without reading that.

Random thoughts:

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Best moment of episode - Husker appearing in uniform. Although brief it was possibly the coolest entrance since Six in the miniseries…

Tigh and Six really got it on huh? Some will say - eeeww…

Anyone surprised they just threw Hera into the brig with Athena?

Biggest question of all - HOW did Six get pregnant? She is now carrying the first 100% Cylon baby, am I right in saying that???

Lee as president…y’know, the whole political/quorum stuff is important to show, but I do find the dramatics of it stale in comparison to the more adventurous stuff going on in the show. Nice that both essential leaders, Roslin and Husker, are floating out in space somewhere, severed form their fragile society. This story is going to very interesting and exciting places…
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[spoiler]Can we go bnack for a second? Hara and Athina int he brig? thats like fraking child aubse. Does Athina have more then one scene in this episdoe? Do we get to see her talk to caperica six?[/spoiler]

Finaly! it took me fifteen times to get that to spoiler tag right

In reply to Emilyfromohio:

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Athena lands in the brig after an irate Bill Adama roars at her for what she did. Athena just asks for her daughter. Adama initially refuses but as he later finds himself leaving the Galactica on his own he requests the new commander, Tigh, to let Athena have her little girl…still would prefer to see them both under house arrest in their apt!!!

She doesn’t talk to Caprica Six. One unusual point - she starts singing to herself. First Gaeta, now her…
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Somthing tells me that could be a clue to what the cylons like to do to confort themselves. Music and ugh…sex. It is interesting because it never really seemed like music was a big part in the fleet’s society for three years. Now, all of a sudden, all the cylons are jamming out into some tunes. Can Grace hodl down a beat?

Next week, I want to see Tigh rap lol

My one hope is that we don’t see Athina in the brig for to long. We don’t have enough time for some sort of repeat of season two. I don’t want her character to be wasted, or lost somewhere in the fold. Putting her in the brig seems like a perfect way to push her story to the side for two weeks, though.
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Out of touch with most of humanity. Would you briefly recap why Lee became President (and how) and why Bill A. stepped down as commander of fleet (and to do what)? What did Athena do to tick him off so much? Thanks.

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Athena shot Natalie, without orders and thus betrayed her promise to Bill Adama back on Kobol. He was furious at the implications of what she had done, and his fury (and panic over Roslin being missing) leads him to put Athena in the brig.

Another point - I believe in his conversation with Tigh (after their punch-up) he truly reveals his love for Laura Roslin. He’s willing to sacrifice himself for her, a realisation that has him alone, in his viper, reading the charred copy of her book…waiting.

As for how Lee becomes president? He invokes legislation which requires Tom Zarek to relinquish his claim and allow a vote. Romo Lampkin is instrumental in putting Lee forward as the candidate when Lee turns to Romo for help.

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Well, Iif your going to look at it that way, Cally, Tyroll, Tigh, helo, Starbuck, Apolo, Anders, have all at some point betrayed their Adneral. I’m just saying that in theory, Adama really should treat all of his people the same. How long you spend in the brig, or even if you go to the brig, should not depend on if Roslin had anything to do with it or not. Yes Athena should go to the brig, but so should Anders for shooting Gata in the leg. If you send Cally to the brig for 30 days, Athena should get that same punishment, in theory, because, int heory, they committed the same crime

Well, really, I’d put Athina under house arrest instead of putting Hara in the brig with her. And, i would not put Tigh in command of a piece of paper after he hit me.
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Are all theses spoiler tags really necessary. I hate spoilers as much as the next, but the thread title clearly indicates that spoilers are present. I certainly understand the need for use of the tags in other threads, but having virtually every post blanked out is a little annyoing.

Well I see your point, they are the requests of the Adims of the forum,. You also never know when osmeone could click on the wrong thread and read the wrong thing. It’s also a extra warning to people…do you really wnat to read this spoiler?

You’re right, but it’s helpful to those who just click through “new posts.” You can use them or not if the thread title implies spoilers.

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Holy Craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!

OK, that’s not really a spoiler…
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enough with the faking spoilers, someone post the torrent link already for frak’s sake, motherfrakers, frak frak frak!

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