Our Earth as homeworld

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#1

Is anyone still holding out hope that the show will end with the fleet discovering our Earth and learning that it is truly the homeworld of humanity? Science tells us so, but RDM and the writers might take a liberty.

With the plot of the final two episodes now obvious, it seems the finale will be too busy for a revelation that big- basically saying that the Sacred Scrolls were wrong and Kobol is NOT the homeworld of mankind. I think wherever they settle will be our Earth, and we’re the descendants of the RTF and Cylons.

I had hoped in the name of science the show’s backstory would be revealed as something like this: Humans colonized Kobol and over time forgot their origins, and then history played out as we know it; the Thirteenth Tribe settled a planet and called it Earth in honor of the (to them) still unforgotten homeworld.

And whatever they find on Earth is likely to be a habitable but uninhabited by humans world. They don’t have time to introduce a new faction or group, even if they breeze by.

Things keep adding up, and to me, it seems that our Earth will be the planet the fleet settles on. They lose their technology, and regress. And we are their descendants.

I ask this because this guy’s blog, which I have followed for some time, and he is REALLY invested in the show adhering to science:

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar

His pre-season 4 invented backstory:

http://www.templetons.com/brad/battlestar.html

His reaction to the revelations of “Sometimes a Great Notion.”

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Contrast this attitude to his expectations prior to 4.5:

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar/fans-are-surprise

Just FYI: I have discovered minor spoilers that I used to piece together what I think might be the ending of the show. I discuss them on that blog- I use my real name, Dustin, so if you see my name be careful- I always post warnings, however.

When discussing the “The show is in the past” concept, he is very obstinate, saying over and over again that it can’t be, that the writers won’t do that. We’ll know in 2 weeks.

#2

From the begining I have been hoping that one way or another it will tie into “our” Earth.

#3

I think it could be actual planet; acutally called Home :eek:

#4

for them to reside on our earth. I think it is the only thing which makes sense.

BSGTOS had the Galacticans be the Atlanteans. I mentioned elsewhere “Helice” = “Helike” which equals “Atlantis” as far as mythology goes. So they have, sorta, kinda, left room for it to be our earth in a way the same as, or like Atlantis. That is, if you don’t accept they found earth and it is nuked.

They’ll find another way–they always do something I don’t expect.

Meanwhile, Laura said to Adama home was the ship and him. That would make them Galacticans. Lee said they were denizens of the Fleet. Perhaps they will not find a planetary home except on the broken basestar–or better–Cavil’s new, shiny ship which appears to be huge.

#5

Well there is the little issue that the gas giant Boomer jumped next to looked an AWFUL lot like Jupiter.

I mean “‘holy frak, that’s Jupiter,’ he said sitting bolt-upright on the couch and spilling the cat from his lap in the process” like Jupiter.

#6

Saw that to and went WTFrak!!! They are in Sol system this is where the final confrontation occurs. The writers are playing soo many head games with us now. Only thing left for them to say this is earth is a big planet sized Flashing Neon sign with the words “This Is EARTH!!!”. With the arrow pointing to our lovely blue globe.:slight_smile:

It’s gonna be one Frakking great finale. I can’t wait.:smiley:

#7

OK here’s an idea - what if the Galactica leaves the fleet behind wherever it is they are to go after the Cavilcade, they see Earth but go out fighting and there is no way to let the fleet know (a) where they are and (b) that where they are is where Earth is.

That would suck for them.

#8

Nah no worries on that Racetrack is back. She’ll look to her left and say “Hey look at that blue planet!”. If they lose Racetrack all hope is lost then.:stuck_out_tongue:

#9

Oooooo… that would be disappointing, especially for the audience. I think BSG fans would riot if that happened.

#10

Yes… all of this. I think the RTF will find a uninhabited planet in this solar system, which is our Earth. I think that guy may be disappointed.

#11

why did “earf”'s star systems match “ours”… if it wasn’t “our” planet…??
know what i mean??

#12

They took liberties with the science to tell a better story. The constellations matched because they needed to be ambiguous about whether Earf was our Earth. If they didn’t, we’d all have known the truth.

#13

Erf was the real Earth, our Earth was just called Earth

“Earth is a dream, one we’ve been chasing for a long time. We’ve earned it, this is Earth” - Bill Adama

#14

“our Earth” is really earf, the “Real Earth” is where you could see all the star patterns from the same spot. On our Earth you can see them all just not at the same time. Thats why they matched when they first jumped in at the end of 4.0

#15

Yep. Our world is Earth 2.0

#16

No kidding. He’s starting to lose it:

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar/good-bad-horrible

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar/creationism-and-abduction-theory

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar/why-you-dont-want-gods-your-fiction

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar/kevin-grazier-apologizes-tomb-athena-etc

http://ideas.4brad.com/battlestar/dont-keep-secrets-when-its-characters-stupid

Note he’s saying that the ending promotes creationism and intelligent design and that it’s basically an affront to science.

#17

Actually, 150,000 years ago, our star systems didn’t match our star systems, if by that you mean the constellations as they look to us today.

Everything in the universe is moving, and the earth (our earth) wobbles on its axis. The relative positions of the stars in our sky is constantly changing, it just takes a few generations for the changes to become observable and mappable.

#18

Our Earth was shown at the end of season 3, yet no close ups were shown of Erf’s topography. In the finale, the Galactica flew over our moon and Africa was prominently displayed.

Take that as you may.

#19

Uhh…if you were in a different place in the universe, the stars that we see in any given constellation would look nothing like they do to us. They only look like they’re right next to each other, to us–we see them in 2 dimensions, but they actually exist in 3 (OK…4) dimensions. To put it another way: in the X-Y axis they look, from where we are, like they are right next to each other. But in the Z axis they actually aren’t anywhere near each other. If you moved to a different place in the universe, made a new star map and compared it to a star map made from our earth, you would begin to get a sense of the depth that you’re missing when you only consider one point of reference (our earth). The word for that is parallax, and it’s the same principle that gives us depth perception–because our eyes are always giving us 2 different views of the world. It’s like if you hold your finger out in front of you and close on eye. Then switch eyes. Your finger will appear to “jump” across the background. The same thing would happen with the stars, if you went from Earf to Earth, or to Kobol, or to Caprica, etc.

#20

Because that was the Earth of the 13th tribe. The earth they ended up at in the end was unknown and had never been known of. They named our planet earth after the real earth(home of 13th tribe).