??? Don’t we, the US, have 100 planets in operation right now? It’s not like we DON’T use it, we just should use it MORE.
Edit: Need to finish reading topic before posting
??? Don’t we, the US, have 100 planets in operation right now? It’s not like we DON’T use it, we just should use it MORE.
Edit: Need to finish reading topic before posting
No worries, Default Prophet, it’s a big thread.
I agree, we need more more more. Wilderness and mountains are being destroyed every day by coal operations that literally rip the terrain apart on a massive scale because of the efforts of the anti-nuclear forces over the past decades.
I am cautiously optimistic that new reactors will be built as a result of this initiative, for the sake of our planet, I am optimistic!
I seem to remember reading something recently about using Thorium as fuel and how it rocks faces above and beyond Uranium? Know what I’m referring to?
I hear Thorium and I think of making armor and weapony in WoW.
I just wanted to add a few things, if they have been coverd I am sorry .
Three Mille Island,as has been pointed out, resulted in zero heatlh risks. The overlooked portion of the story is, all safety precautions putin place to contain, worked. ALl nuclear facilities that were in place at that time are still operational with zero repeats of the incident.
Chernobyl happened because all safety precatutions that are supposed to be in place were removed. Chernobyl was a man made disaster, it was no accident.
France has the bulk of their power grid from nuclear with zero incidences.
As for bureaucrats in charge? They arleady are in charge of quite a number of nuclear power plants. That navy owns the largest amount of nuclear power plants in in the US today. They have had zero issues with their nuclear sub program. In fact their safety record is better than Dow who also owns most of the private nuclear plats. Dow’s record is also excellent. If I were to put the government in charge I would make it the navy. They know what they are doing & do it well.
The current grid we have in place is not adequate. Building more coal plants is dsastrous environmentally. Our current grid is also exceedingly vulnerable to a massive shut down similar to what we have in 2003. Many of the recommendations to improve the grid ahve not been made & we stil remain vulnerable.
Am I thrilled with a nuclear option? Not really, however, given all options curently available, it’s our best one.
I believe you’re describing liquid fluoride thorium, which are supposed to be the cat’s pajamas. These loans are for conventional water reactors, but I’d like to see further development on these as well.
Thanks for the video, that was really cool!
Thorium seems to kill all of the arguments against conventional uranium reactors. They are safe, efficient and have virtually no waste, and what little waste there is has a very short storage time before it becomes inert and harmless. Sweeeeeeet!
like i said, mining wise, coal and uranium are equally bad for the environment. all the evils that happens in coal mining happens in uranium mining. almost all uranium mining is open strip mine.
i get a sense in this thread that people seems to think it’s an either or problem when it comes to generating electricity. in my mind, coal and nuclear power are equally bad. there are other ways of generating electricity, such as algae farming. once the technique of isolating a single a single type of algae is perfected, it can be done in a massive scale. all you need is a little water and a bunch of sun, and algae will grow like mad.
as for clean coal being hoax or not, that depends on if you look at the power company’s “clean coal” or research that is being down by scientists. I think in the end preventing radioactive dust from entering the atmosphere will be easier than dealing with nuclear waste. because for the particles to be radioactive, it tends to be heavier and bigger than CO2 particles. to suggest such particles can’t be screened out doesn’t sound logical. it is only a matter of willingness to commit recourses to research and execute.
Dang. Now, that you’re catching what I mean, I need to get back to you on that.
Second thought, are you including the impact on minority and low-income communities or just within the industry itself? Not to mention environmental impacts.
I’ll just Google it as soon as I take a break from ME2.
Edit: Gah! I didn’t catch there’s a third page now.
Just so you know. I did go and read most of thses articles and only the first one seemed to directly address Nuclear Waste storage on a minority location. The third article did mention Nuclear waste but only in transportation thru minority areas. But it also makes mention that there are excellent safety standards in place. The other two seem to be talking about all kinds of industrial waste up to including most local run businesses.
Also the author of the article on the Native Americans has questionable credentials
And judging by this writing is also a big proponent of wind powerso his viewpoints are very skewed
The best solution to the high-level radioactive waste overflow problem at Bruce is to not make anymore of it in the first place.
What to do with the waste that already exists? Certainly building an open air Yucca Mountain on the shore of Lake Huron is not the answer. Neither is an “out of sight, out of mind” approach to disposal, as in shipping it to a scientifically-indefensible rural region for burial against the wishes of the people there, as proposed in the US at Yucca Mountain. Particularly unacceptable is the targeting of Native American lands for dumps, a blatant manifestation of environmental racism, as at Yucca Mountain with the Western Shoshone and at Grassy Narrows, Ontario with the Ojibwe.
The vast monies being wasted on attempting to revive the moribund nuclear industry must be redirected to safeguarding reactors and on-site wastes against terrorist attack and wear-and-tear, age-related degradation accidents. Now is the time for an orderly phase out of atomic electricity, and a transition to conservation, efficiency, and cleaner, cheaper, safer, renewable sources of electricity. Such a transition would create thousands of new jobs, while the Bruce workforce would be kept busy with decommissioning and clean up. The brand new wind turbine farm, standing between our two great countries at the Straits of Mackinac, is a beacon pointing the way to the future.
Here’s an interesting inverview on NPR this morning with a died in the wool environmentalist with an interesting perspective on nuclear power.
i’ve researched this subject abit due to this neverending thread.I didn’t know how plentifull uranium was (i thought it very rare),it’s just so spread out it’s difficult to extract efficiently.Thorium is four times more plentifull.
Interesting enough to research alittle more.Knowledge is power.
I’ll be back.
You, sir, have succeeded. Thanks.
In case Thunderscreech is thinking, “What?!! After everything I posted?!” (:
I assure you, it’s nothing personal. Phil posted a frakkin’ NPR link… Can’t get easier and simpler than that.
heh heh, no worries. I’ll have to tell you about a practical joke we played on someone at work with uranium a few years ago sometime. Short version: He got the full treatment from airport security.
Oh, that is cruel…
Did they do the ‘swab’ thing? Oh wait, they did not have that yet… That is the newest procedure, they swab your hands for propellants and explosives. And… it can pick up drug residue too, though officially they are not testing for that. If so then why is it part of the spectrum of particulates it can test for?
:eek: sounds vaguely like a felony
Hmm… maybe I shouldn’t tell the story after all, then! It was a fairly epic prank, however, and we marked it ‘Successful’.
well if there are things like and when he wasn’t looking we put it in his bag. or dude crossed three state lines… probably not a story to tell publicly.
“Has anyone asked you to look after their bags?”
“No.”
“Have your bags ever left your possession?”
“No.”
scans bags
“Security!”
off topic but just reminded me of this old bit from George Carlin
won’t embed it cause its not safe for work but still hilarious starts about 3 minutes into video