Independence Day Frak Party 11/14 @ 10 PM ET

Gutter Academy of Motion Pictures
brings you a GWC special feature

Friday, November 14th, 2008
10PM Eastern, 7PM Pacific, 3AM (SAT) UK/Ireland,
4AM(SAT) Germany, 12PM (SAT) Seoul, 2PM (SAT) Melbourne

By Limited Engagement, One Night Only

By popular demand: Refraktion!

Saturday, November 15th, 2008
2PM Eastern, 11AM Pacific, 7PM UK/Ireland,
8PM Germany, 4AM (SUN) Seoul, 6AM (SUN) Melbourne

Independence Day

Coming to a Frakkatorium Near You
“Once again, the L.A.P.D. is asking Los Angelenos not to fire their guns at the visitor spacecraft. You may inadvertently trigger an interstellar war.”

Okay, I just want to get some general thoughts out early on this one, before we can take it apart in earnest if the frak party. I was going to call in on this, but I figured I could articulate it better (and keep my grammar pristine, for the cop’s sake) in the forums.

I’m admittedly a cinematic curmudgeon, and I maintain a notably high bar of expectations on all films, sci-fi and fantasy in particular. I will say, though, that while ID is not exactly a career-defining piece of work, and I’ll agree with RMHPH and Default Prophet that I often fight the urge to tear it asunder, it has redeeming qualities if you take it in the right light: this is intended to be what I refer to as a “candy bar film” – satisfying while it’s right in front of you, but if you analyze the label for too long, you’ll just find too many things to criticize.

The entire piece just smacks of the classic pulp sci-fi books, comics and creature-features of the late fifties and early sixties, especially when you factor in (a) the malevolent alien force bend on destruction, (b) the military response to “blow 'em to kingdom come”, © numerous scenes of the populace fleeing the cities (as in Godzilla flicks, etc.), and (d) the maverick who saves the day (and for those of you still playing the election drinking game, yeah, that counts). If you are willing to view the film through that filter, there’s no reason why you can’t sit back, put your disbelief in check, and enjoy.

I’ll save plot point and dialogue discussion for the scheduled frak party, I just wanted to put this comparison out there for pre-emptive thought…see what kinds of parallels you see with the “It Came From…” films of the space race era, when our favorite entertainment diversion from early Cold War concerns was to look to the skies for a less-than-human (or greater-than, depending on your view) enemy to worry over.

Oh. Wait. There’s another factor about the film I may personally not ever get over, however, and that’s the casting. Putting Will Smith and Harry Connick, Jr. in the same scenes effectively renders me without a wife for the duration, and no amount of, “Honey? Hello, are you listening to me? I said, ‘The cat is on fire’” will pull her out of her daze. Nice job, Mr. Emmerich, for THAT little piece of marital assistance. What’s next, Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp in some deserted island survival flick? :::fume:::

Since you brought it up, I may as well share this here and now:

A Rocket Scientist’s Reaction to Independence Day

This lists critiques point by point, including some that have never occurred to me. I’m sure that there are other flaws, of course, beyond these. :rolleyes:

I’m admittedly a cinematic curmudgeon, and I maintain a notably high bar of expectations on all films, sci-fi and fantasy in particular. I will say, though, that while ID is not exactly a career-defining piece of work, and I’ll agree with RMHPH and Default Prophet that I often fight the urge to tear it asunder, it has redeeming qualities if you take it in the right light: this is intended to be what I refer to as a “candy bar film” – satisfying while it’s right in front of you, but if you analyze the label for too long, you’ll just find too many things to criticize.

The entire piece just smacks of the classic pulp sci-fi books, comics and creature-features of the late fifties and early sixties, especially when you factor in (a) the malevolent alien force bend on destruction, (b) the military response to “blow 'em to kingdom come”, © numerous scenes of the populace fleeing the cities (as in Godzilla flicks, etc.), and (d) the maverick who saves the day (and for those of you still playing the election drinking game, yeah, that counts). If you are willing to view the film through that filter, there’s no reason why you can’t sit back, put your disbelief in check, and enjoy.

I’ll save plot point and dialogue discussion for the scheduled frak party, I just wanted to put this comparison out there for pre-emptive thought…see what kinds of parallels you see with the “It Came From…” films of the space race era, when our favorite entertainment diversion from early Cold War concerns was to look to the skies for a less-than-human (or greater-than, depending on your view) enemy to worry over.

I can certainly see it in that light, especially in the “evil monsters from space” and “worlds sits on its hands, waiting for America to save them” aspects of '50s films. That doesn’t mean it can’t be thoroughly enjoyed and gutted for its logical inconsistencies at the same time. :smiley:

This has always struck me as similar in initial conceit (giant spacecrafts over the world’s major cities) to Childhood’s End, and although it takes a very different turn, isn’t necessarily a worse story.

That’s more a critique of Childhood’s End, BTW>

anybody out there?

poke poke poke

Reporting for duty, Ma’am! I’ve got my crop-duster ready to go!

special edition or theatrical version??

Yup .

I show 2 minutes past the hour. shall we begin?

Kick the tires and light the fires!

When do we press play?

just theatrical, unfortunately

works for me

She’s a bump bump 20th Century Fox. She’s a…

Saw this opening night. The lines wuz crazy. It was so much fun with an audience.

wait, no–it’s the special edition

Damn, my XBox is having a slow boot day.

Aw look at wittle planet Earth

“It’s the end of the world as we know it”

How long is it? (IYKWIM)

Mine’s 2:24:36 – which one is that?

ZOMG! When he takes his plane up into the saucer! I just about cried.

Wait, where are you guys at?