GWC Podcast #98

I’m kind of torn with what’s going down on the Grand Poo Barge. I guess its logical for the the crew to mutiny and not align with cylon rebels and instead to return to the fleet, but I would think by now that they’d have witnessed enough things that would put the “logical choice” into question. Unfortunately, Kara is the only one on the ship to have witnessed the map to Earth first hand, but Gaeta was the one that analyzed the Eye of Jupiter and should realize the incredibly small probability of that star going supernova at the exact moment when it did. Therefore, it would seem that it shouldn’t take that much of a leap of faith to follow Kara.

Audra mentions that she hopes that Kara comes back to reality, but who is to say that she isn’t already there? She’s seen Earth and say’s she knows how to find it. That isn’t any more illogical than some of the arguments made by the President who they have been following loyally since the reunification of the fleet at Kobal. Starbuck appears to be their best (or only?) hope to find Earth and I think they need to follow her as far as it goes. It made sense to separate the search party from the rest of the fleet because it is a dangerous mission, and exactly because the fleet isn’t in danger their mutiny seems that much more self serving.

I’ve been a Helo fan from the beginning, but this is the first time (IMO, obviously) that I’ve really seen him really fail in his decision making. He “hand picked” this crew to serve on this mission, knowing that it required following Kara’s gut instinct to find Earth. Unfortunately, clearly the crew he picked was not up to the task. That appears to show a poor judge in character by Helo. Then again maybe Adama gave him an impossible task and Bill’s desire to help Kara may have clouded his judgement. He may have had too strong a faith that the men and women in his command would also have the same faith in Kara.

RE: Starscream

I always took it that Megatron had an inferiority complex, afterall he transforms into a tiny gun. Besides he needs idiots around him so he can look and feel better about himself. Only people secure with their abilities can have a second that’s smarter than themselves…ahem Captain James T Kirk.

That being said, a thought just came to mind. Tigh is a major screwup and yet Adama’s second. We saw how well Tigh lead the fleet when Adama was shot. Yet both are total opposite relationships. Megatron and Starscream hate each other and never work together, even toward a common goal. Starscream is usually fodder for the battle. Even with all his flaws Tigh is needed by Adama. They are friends and there for each other. They are brothers.

The caller made a great point about Boomer not talking to Leoben. Like the GWC crew, that thought was creeping up on me thru the early part of #98. I mean, even if I hated all the people at the place I worked three jobs ago, if half of them turned on the other half and started killing each other, I’d want to hear about it.

I do the same thing on the bus to work. In the eyes of my fellow commuters, I don’t look or smell like the other crazy bus riders, but I sometimes do react to nothing just like they do.

Maybe someone can correct me, but I think I recall a deleted scene from Season 3 where Athena is kind of explaining that she’s had to consciously cut herself off from her “Cyloninity”, which kind of lessens her, but it’s the vow she made to rejoin the fleet. My take is that she struggles with that, and it’s probably something that’s going to come to the forefront real soon if the poo-barge makes the rendezvous with the Cylon survivors/abolitionists (the Leobens, Sixes and Sharons are all kind of on that free the slaves kind of mission).

Oh, and here’s the scene I’m just waiting for, which will probably be the last shot of the series:

[TO TAKE PLACE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE FINAL MIND-FRAKKING SPACE BATTLE ABOVE AND ON EARTH, WHERE THE FINAL CYLON IS REVEALED, THE MYSTERIES OF KOBOL AND THE HYLONS AND THE MIND BALTAR AND SIX ARE EXPOSED, AND ALL OF THE TEARS OF TRIUMPH AND TRAGEDY ARE SHED]

SMOKE CLEARS. BALTAR STANDS UP FROM THE RUBBLE, BRUSHES HIMSELF OFF AND TURNS TO HELO.

BALTAR: Oh…umm…Helo was it? Umm, yeah, umm, I just wanted to say thanks for saving my butt back on Caprica.

HELO: Hey, no problem. Thanks for rescuing my daughter when President Nut-Job wanted to abort her, and for picking her up on New Caprica when Psycho-Slut Tory and the Former President Nut-Job happened to lose her.

BALTAR: Oh, my pleasure…

(UNCOMFORTABLE PAUSE)

BALTAR: Tea?

HELO: Yes, please.

[FADE TO BLACK]

Also, maybe given everyone’s reaction to Leoben, she just wants to avoid suspicion. She could feel that she’s worked so hard to gain everyone’s trust, that she doesn’t want to do anything to jeopardize that. Showing an interest and/or concern for other cylons could make people wonder…

Valid point:

Pike: Athena, you’re a Cylon… Don’t you know that guy? What’s up with your boy?

Boomer: My boy? Naw, I don’t know that dude.

For some reason, this statement made me laugh. I don’t know, maybe it was the visual of my former co-workers killing each other. Good times…good times.

-K

Muy bien, te doy una buena nota, pero porfis deja de darme recuerdos de mis alumnos!! :stuck_out_tongue:

but just seriously eeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwww.

Michaela from Melbourne: heartwarming to hear another Aussie accent…

Natalie Portman bald: check out “V” (no not the alien invasion series…the movie, the one with John Hurt and Hugo Weaving!) She’s one of the few women that can carry a chrome dome.

Was pondering the bald thing and yes, some can make it work and some…really should not try.

Those who can:
Vin Diesel
John Malkovich (voluntary?)
Cap’n Jean Luc Picard
Bruce Willis
Moby
Morpheus
Yoda

Those who can’t and really shouldn’t:
Galen Tyrol
ummm I’ll get back to you. Any other contributions welcome!

gaf

Too funny!

gaf

i’ve shaved my head before… and i don’t thnik i should do it again for the sake of the survival of humanity, but i rather enjoyed the baldness. It is really very liberating. To have no worries what what my hair is going to look like every morning, it’s totally carefree. Until they grow out of course.

I did it in hopes of breaking a losing streak of my favorite baseball team… that’s probably not a good enough reason, but people really should try it.

Sean - Natalie Portman shaved her head for “V for Vendetta”.

I would shave my head if I had to! :slight_smile: For the Gods sake - it’s just hair! It grows back! Get over it!

Fun 'cast this week. Very loose, but not too much so. Didn’t feel like two hours. Cheers!

ok…so i got a bit curious and looked up skeevy in the oxford english dictionary, and what follows is what’s listed:

[< Italian regional (Tuscany) schifo, adjective (< Italian schifo (noun) sense of repugnance, nausea, disgust (1353 in Boccaccio) < Old French eschif hostile, fierce: see ESCHEW a.) + -Y1. Cf. later SKEEVE v., SKEEVE n.]

Disgusting, distasteful, or dirty; discomforting; sleazy.

1976 J. D’ALESSANDRO in Philadelphia Mag. Mar. 125/1 The word ‘skeevie’ used by South Philadelphians to indicate something disgusting is from Italian ‘schifare’, to loathe. 1991 Newsday (Nexis) 3 Nov., Zevon has built a career on well-crafted pop songs that tend to be either smartass and sensitive or smartass and skeevy. 1994 Rolling Stone 22 Sept., He’s trying to get her to give him one [sc. a massage], and I think with another guy it would have come across kind of skeevy. But Jerry’s got this quality that…made it…innocent and boyish. 2001 K. WALKER & M. SCHONE Son of Grifter xvii. 155, I suffered through a few months of late hours as the front-desk clerk at a skeevy Vegas motel.

…so for the record, it was mentioned in the 70s…

That’s probably why I resist such calls. In my case the hair could possibly [i]not[/i] grow back…

i’m a little upset that the wonder trio had trouble remembering sgt. mathius, who has been in 8 episodes of BSG, was in razor, and was the lawyer in juno!!!

Well, at least the first recorded use, could have come up a little or even a lot earlier in spoken English.

You don’t have the OED like at home or so, do you?

ps. Speaking from bitter experience, late-night board op = worst job ever.

jet lag I guess .