Chuck you rock, you cost me money but you still rock, During the podcast you mentioned the online Marvel comic thing.
Now as for person who grew up reading marvel, and still likes and search out the art; but stopped reading them, but you three hardly ever steer me wrong so i gave it a try and its pretty cool a little hard to read concidering my tiny computer, but still lots of content, and some cool walks through memory lane
and than there’s deadpool how i have missed you.
There is no show. There never was a show. It has always been hiatus…
ASLAN! ASLAN!
(Ignore the cheezy acting here, I just thought of this clip when the Big Three hit this point in the 'cast.)
Go to timecode 06:30.
I need to call for a clarification…are we counting “Dark Horse” as part of DC? Because if we are I call foul. Sandman…the modern classic of comics is Dark Horse. The rest of DC? I couldn’t even speak to.
Now Groo…Groo is a real comic. Marvel (second time around) so it will meet with Sean’s approval.
Wait, that’s not Vertigo anymore?
(I have to stay away from comic shops these days. It’s part of my program.)
I thought Dark Horse and Vertigo were two completely unrelated comic labels.
Of course I know next to bugger all about comics apart from Vertigo has very excellent stories (Sandman, V for Vendetta, etc) and Dark Horse has the stuff I’m reading monthly (star wars: KOTOR, Buffy series 8).
despite my extreme reluctance, i watched the new Knight Rider. And I have to say they did a pretty good job. The car is totally spanking cool, so I forgot about it being a Ford in 5 seconds after it first showed up on screen. I didn’t see any guns mounted on KITT. It was just dumb passenger who fired a automatic weapon from with in the car. There were silly parts, like crashing the car with main character’s father inside so they can save him. I am amazed that anyone survived that crash. But hey, it was pretty good for what it was.
years? decades! forever!
My only complaint is Sean’s bashing of DC comics. For many comics readers, there is a love/hate relationship with DC and Marvel. You love one company and hate the other. I happen to be a DC guy, but I’ll continue to listen even though DC is not feeling the love from Sean and Chuck!
yeah, the DC bashing wasn’t so cool…
It totally had that 80s “A-Team” ending where after the jeep crashes through a bank wall, flys off a cliff, tumbles down a hill, bursts into flames, flips over into the air and lands in a lake, the passengers crawl from the wreak unscathed rubbing their heads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mEFw6eBAg
Find MUGEN and release your anger towards Marvel. or DC if that’s what you prefer.
All this and she can fix yo’ ride. That’s all I’m sayin’
LOL, Ok since it’s pretty obvious I kicked over a hornets nest here let me speak again on DC comics. I do stand by my opinion but I will expand a bit on it and tell you why… as that is only fair when someone disses a very large body of work with an off handed comment like I just have. 
Chuck and I were talking about archived comics and old back issues and the origins of comics which are what he is into right now. It is my personal opinion having read quite a few of the old DC stock from the 40’s through the 60’s that the Marvel stock is better to start with. Which is a bit unfair – I know - as DC or “Detective Comics” started out quite a bit earlier (the 30’s) than marvel doing straight up detective stuff like Dick Tracey type stories and the like.
(Though technically I think Marvel is as old as DC they were not doing the Superhero racket untill the 60’s so it doesn’t really count, Read: Stan Lee)
The superhero concept was a pretty new thing when DC started so they made up a lot of the rules as they went along with Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman and Green lantern which is fine really but here’s where I start to get off the wagon.
I don’t like the old style of drawing in the early comics. The DC style until the 90’s was a bit too “classic” for me. So I was a bit turned off there.
Though they are legends of the comic industry I have never been a superman fan because I consider his stories a bit boring.
Batman is cool in the 90’s and up and the dark knight stuff is sweet but early Batman kills me and is not my type of corny.
The Green Lantern art never did it for me because well, it’s green, and I have trouble with green so I never got into it.
Then there is Wonder Woman, she is really cool but I had trouble getting into her for some reason. There was just much cooler stuff when I was getting into comics about women characters like Witchblade or X-men that completely eclipsed her.
So the largest part of the body of early work (read: before the 90’s) in the DC archives has just never done it for me. Of course during the 90’s the entire comic industry had a renaissance of style and story that elevated everyone including DC to a different level. Even some of the previously uninteresting characters like Superman became interesting to me but before that, I must say that I was largely unimpressed even though they are titans (teen and otherwise) of the comic universe. Just one dude’s opinion here so don’t take it as law by any stretch but I thought I would clarify where I am coming from.
I think the Princess Bride movie was one of the best novel adaptations I’ve ever seen. It’s extremely faithful to the novel, the dialogue often matches exactly. The movie does trim off a little bit, but that was really slow and boring and I would have done the same. Having said that, don’t read the last page of the book. It’s not in the movie for a reason. When I started reading it, my friend warned me not to read, but I couldn’t resist… and now I warn others.
I agree with Sean and Audra that the filming in BSG is less sexist than in Firefly. In BSG, not only do they do more sexy male shots (eg. towel scene), but they aren’t afraid to shoot the women in less a flattering light. Starbuck is hot, but most of the time they’re shooting her in a way that doesn’t emphasize it. In fact, much of the time she looks a bit crummy, like one would expect of people in the middle of a war. One of the reasons it took me a while to get into Firefly was that I turned to the show and caught a scene where they were implying hot girl-on-girl (some massage scene, no idea what episode). I turned away instantly, it took another six months or more for me to get motivated to try the show again. I have no desire to see the typical sci-fi sexist shows (dress the women up in miniskirts and have the men hold the guns). Of course Firefly isn’t as bad as that one shot implied, but BSG really raised the bar. I hope future sci-fi shows take a cue. You can have men and women both being hot and tough, but it doesn’t have to happen at the same time or all the time.
The video gave me a headache. Obviously, my body has found another cool method of venting: I dreamed in blank verse last (honestly! but I did study tons of Shakespeare plays recently) I wonder if there’s reason to my madness?
hm, I can see that, in the time period you’re referring to, their art oftentimes was quite conventional.
Check out Batman: Strange Apparations, though, for an example of very excellent 70s DC work!
Though they are legends of the comic industry I have never been a superman fan because I consider his stories a bit boring.
That’s why I’m a Batman fan.
Batman is cool in the 90’s and up and the dark knight stuff is sweet but early Batman kills me and is not my type of corny.
Again, Strange Apparitions.
Of course during the 90’s the entire comic industry had a renaissance of style and story that elevated everyone including DC to a different level.
I would love to have an artist explain to me why that was a “renaissance?” I, for one, would describe it as a quantum leap forward …
now everybody’s gonna read the last page first…
that might be a very legitimate reason to check out FF, after all
Everything they said. Seriously. In fact, the movie’s on cable this month, and I can never get that final bit out of my head.
Goldman wrote both the book and the screenplay. And if any of you readers are aspiring screenwriters, or generally interested in the nuts and bolts of movies, Goldman’s two books on the subject, Adventures in the Screen Trade, are must-reads.
As far as teasing the “you gotta read the book” angle, there’s a very good reason that the grandfather is reading a very thick book, but it doesn’t take him four days to read it.
I think it’s the first time I hear “Firefly” and “sexist” together I think that Joss Whedon (Firefly’s creator) might be the most feminist writer/showrunner in the hollywood business. If you haven’t seen his great speech about equality:
Certainly homie, I was referring to was the rebirth or revival of the entire comic platform in the early 90’s. Comic producers and creators tore down and rebuilt the stories and in some cases the very images of the characters and universe they find themselves in.
This redefinition of thinking led to a second golden age of the comic genera and led to some of the best looking art and coolest stories in recent times. They killed superman, the x-men split up, characters took on a grit and feel that is echoed in the re-imagining of shows like BSG.
In short, a renaissance. At least to my way of thinking.
Thanks for mentioning the digital comic viewer. I find this pretty interesting, and right now I am debating if I can afford it (poor college kid). Actually, who am I kidding, I will likely sign up for it.
I am not sure who called in about the draft board, but thanks for clearing that up. I am kind of curious now why this board felt like drafting my father and his brothers, and most of my other family members for the Vietnam War. It was pretty disproportionate when you look at the rest of the local population for who got drafted.
AMEN! i couldnt agree more. i have NEVER been interested in made-for-TV sci-fi-outerspace-show, in particular because of this very issue. BSG was the only show to achieve what had been done in such movies as “Alien(s)”… keep the female soldiers as soldiers… with a “realistic hotness” about them.
Just wanted to add my two cents in to say I agree with Trillian, Yorick, and adoracion!
Firefly does do a really great job of portraying gender equality, and Joss Whendon has done a lot of productive work in that area. I love him for it. Although I also think BSG does a better job of it in some ways, especially in letting the women look like real people when they are soldiers or all dirty and a mess. Personally I think Starbuck looks best when she’s being a soldier or looking all “crummy”