Airlock Baltar thanks you for mentioning me on the podcast. I was blown away that my questions were good enough to get on it. Also I AM STARTING A MEET UP IN CHICAGO. IF YOU WANT TO GO SEND A MESSEGE TO CHUCK, OR AUDRA THAT YOU WANT A MEET UP THERE. I HAVE A AWSOME IDEA FOR US TO MEET.
One piece of follow up on the Borg virus; later in the when the Borg show up again (Descent Pt1&2) Admiral Nechayev (Picard’s direct superior) ordered Picard to avail himself of any opportunity to rid the Federation of the threat posed by the Borg. Some great quotes came out of the episode Descent that directly relate to Helios’s action this time regarding the Cylons.
– Admiral Nechayev to Picard in ST:TNG “Descent”
“Your priority is to safeguard the lives of Federation citizens, not to wrestle with your conscience.”
– Commander William T. Riker:
Sending Hugh back to the Borg was a very risky… very dangerous choice. But it was the moral thing to do.
– Captain Jean-Luc Picard:
Well it may turn out that the moral thing to do was not the right thing to do.
I don’t think they should email Chuck or Audra since they aren’t involved with the planning…unless they are coming north for it. 
Anyone interested needs to post in the original Chicago Meetup thread:
http://forum.galacticwatercooler.com/showthread.php?t=778
Otherwise no one will know where to post and put their ideas for the meetup. And you need to post your idea there too!
Despite Audra and Sean’s warnings about strange women bearing the I-pod of torture, if they all looked liked Lucy Lawless (D’Anna) they can do whatever the hell they want as far as I am concerned!
In response to Audra’s question about how an infectious agent could survive in space for so long, my answer would be some kind of spore. Bacteria can produce spores that are meant to survive some pretty harsh conditions. Anthrax is a good example. Although, I don’t believe scientists have ever found anything that could last for that long in vacuum. I guess that’s the fiction in the science fiction![/QUOTE]
I read recently on a internet post (Yahoo Headlines I think) that scientists had discovered that a number of bacteria become “highly agressive” compared to their earthly counterparts when they are taken into outer space. Here is a web address with a related article.
http://http://www.space.com/news/spacestation/space_fungus_000727.html
No, sorry to disappoint. I was thinking of the mosquito in Amber in Jurassic Park that allows dinosaur DNA to stay intact for millions of years, and I got the impression that after that novel/movie the mosquito in amber thing was kind of the proverbial sci-fi way to store microbes for a long time.
Sky Captain: Brilliant idea, looked great. Wasn’t great. I have kids, so I don’t get to make it to many movies in the theater any more, and I only make it point to see certain flicks on the big screen. Went totally out of my way to see Sky Captain. And, man, what a disappointment. Boo-hiss. Visuals were nifty. But I went in thinking, “Wow – rampaging old-school robots; how bad could it be?” It was pretty bad.
ok I found this article that confirms helo is a captain
“TAHMOH PENIKETT As Helo on the hit Sci Fi Channel show, … My rank is still captain. I’m not XO. You can be any rank for XO.”
http://www.wizarduniverse.com/television/bsg/003408316.cfm
I was surprised you guys didn’t go for “Sky Captain.” It was so obviously a love letter to 1950s style B-movie space opera, plot included, only with super-cool visuals. I really enjoyed it, anyway.
Oh, and props for getting your grammar correct. Unless I missed it, everyone on the 'cast used Sean’s new title properly. One should never directly address a member of the clergy directly as “Reverend,” because it is a third person title: “The Reverend,” as you all used it properly. If you’re addressing a clergyman or -woman directly, “Mr.” or “Ms.” will do (or “Dr.,” if they have the degree.) This is one of my pet peeves, so I notice whether folks use it correctly or not, and kudos to GWC for doing so!
I had such hope for Skycaptain. It looked sooooo good! It was indeed a loveletter to those sci-fi B-movies, as well as Metropolis and the Fliesher Superman cartoons, all of which I love…in context. But even with the cool look and the promising subject matter, it was just dull.
Raiders was the same type of loveletter, but it worked.
It’s all about character, and the Skycaptain characters just were not engaging enough. There was no spark.
Frankly, I’d be far more interested in reading a “making of” book than re-watching the movie.
Not a good sign.
EXACTLY!! It should have been Raiders of the Lost Ark, but it was more like Alan Quatermain and the Cities of Gold. Like, the whole camera film bit generated more dramatic tension than the entire plot. And it would have been nice if Jolie had been given something to do, and/or had some measure of chemistry with somebody in the cast. That’s one of those roles where, technically, she was in the movie, but she wasn’t – kind of like how she was barely in Gone in 60 Seconds.
I too was disappointed in “Sky Captain”, but not because of the story. I think the thing that really got to me was the thing that was really the catch of the whole flick. All of the sets were CG.
I think that there are times for CG rendered sets, but not an entire movie.
For anyone interested in finding information about the “Bug Hunt at Outpost 9”, I got that from a source which points to “American Cinematographer”, the November issue of 1997. Best of luck finding it though.
Sorry abotut he loack of posting , December qwas a really busy minth for me at work, in addition to holiday.
Before I begin, Merry Happy Holidays to all of the GWC-ers.
Rev Sean (Your Holiness), i totally agree about Winnie Cooper. Annoyed me - and really lost any potential hotness when she got older. However, since you did mention Doogie Howser - his girlffriend Wanda…wow. Right up there with Topanga from Boy Meets World (wiow, I watched WAY too much TV as a kid)
Also, Rev Sean, TOTALLY agree about Agnelina Jolie. Only reason I went to see Beowulf (Besides hearing him scream he was Germ Killer and Plaque Slayer or whatever). Yes, she was a dragon…but every relationship has their hurdles…
but I digress…
Same here - Except for Angelina counting down…“3…2…1” yep that was pretty much it
Actually the line from necheyev that hit me was
“As I understand it… you found a single Borg at a crash site…brought it aboard the Enterprise… studied it…analyzed it… and eventually found a way to send it back to the
Borg with a program that would have destroyed the entire collective once and for all…But instead, you nursed the Borg back to health, treated it like a guest, gave it a name, and then sent it home. Why?”
No real good answer for that…
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And hook and brutha up on the Firefly rewatch - loved that shows. Only got into it after Serenity…and love it. Definitely up for a rewatch.
Of course there was a good answer for that!!! It was the moral thing to do! Like it or not, part of the TNG universe is that our heroes do the moral thing. That’s what “I Borg” was all about, and the unexpected side effect of doing the moral thing was that individualism turned out to be a far more effective weapon than a computer virus. Nechayev was wrong, as was the person who used the crew’s actions against them in “The Drumhead” (I thought that was Nechayev, but I guess not – I forget that character’s name.)
In Trek, as in BSG, the temptation is to become like “our” “enemies” by doing what they would do. In TNG, unlike BSG, the question, “Is humanity worth saving?” is never in question; but there is the implicit answer to that question, “Humanity is worth saving because humanity is moral and basically good.” Things are of course murkier (and more realistic) in BSG, but I am trusting that series’ answer will also, ultimately be, yes, we are worth survival and worth saving.
let me rephrase…because I do agree with you…
There’s no real good answer for that when it’s your boss saying it. baciaslly “You know do to one thing that would likely help us out…you do something completely different that could screw us.”
Even Picard said “Just because it was the moral thing to do doesn’t mean it was the right thing to do.”
All that being said - (and yes this is going to ST territory - many apologies) how did he go from “yes this is moral” in that episode to basically “Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out” in First Contact?
I agree with you that FC is out of character for Picard, given the events of “I Borg.” For that, there is no good answer! (Even though it remains a darn fine movie.)
And, yes, I see what you were saying – there’s no “good answer” to convince an angry boss!
Indeed, my friend!