So what would it look like when Jack Projects like the other Cylons.
Wall to wall fire hydrants.
As far as Jake being left behind. Who does Jake belong to? It’s quite possible that Jake’s owner didn’t survive the occupation.
While I’m fine with the idea of Jake returning, I really want to talk about the music in this episode. I’m now watching S3 on my iPod. I was in bed with the headphones, so I’m sure that made me more aware of the music than I normally am. I really felt the pull of all the emotions and conflicts in this episode in such an intense way. Like someone has already ready stated- seeing the lines crossed by characters who never cross the line, seeing raw survival at its best, most clever and most dire. This episode had it all.
So I loved the music and I really miss Ellen.
As hardcore fans know, Jake has signed a three episode deal to coincide with the return of Romo’s cat.
Jake’s management team is also pleased to announce that Jake will be directing episode 17 of Battlestar Galactica this season, pending the resolution of the Writer’s strike.
On the musical side, Bear McCreary has completed composition and recording of “Jake’s Theme Suite”, a twelve minute piece to be featured prominently this season.
I think the word Sean was looking for (he said “creepy” to describe this episode) was bleak. Or atleast that is how I would describe it.
bleak 1 |blēk|
adjective
(of an area of land) lacking vegetation and exposed to the elements : a bleak and barren moor.
• (of a building or room) charmless and inhospitable; dreary : he looked around the bleak little room in despair.
• (of the weather) cold and miserable : a bleak midwinter’s day.
• (of a situation or future prospect) not hopeful or encouraging; unlikely to have a favorable outcome : he paints a bleak picture of a company that has lost its way.
• (of a person or a person’s expression) cold and forbidding : his bleak, near vacant eyes grew remote.
You might as well change “bleak” to “New Caprica.”
However, I really love this story arc and the first four episodes of this season rank among the best in the series (on par with “33” “Pegasus” and “Resurrection Ship”)
Turning our heroes into insurgents and turning our entire conceptions (and in some cases preconceptions) of who these people are on its head is seriously a stroke of genius.
I agree, Miguel. This is probably my favorite story arc in the whole series and I’m probably in the minority in having hoped that most of season 3 had taken place on New Caprica. I guess budget limitations, not to mention carrying such a bleak story for so long, made that impossible, but it’s really one of the highlights of the whole series…so far.
So I had to comment on you guys’ conversation regarding why anyone would want to move to New Caprica. I don’t think it has anything to do with whether you live in the Tillium ship, Galactica or Colonial One. Just think about air travel. The re-circulated air, the cramped seats, the bad food, the constant hum of the engines and the tiny windows. If you’ve ever been on an international flight (or hell, a long national one), you know how uncomfortable you can get, even in first class (as if I know what that’s like!).
Now imagine living in those conditions for a year and a half.
Yep. Makes New Caprica look like Barbados. Pass the ambrosia margaritas!
Most of the ships in this fleet are not cruise ships: they are utalitarian vessels which were not designed to hold humans for extended periods.
What’s more I do wonder about the amount of information released to the general public in this environment. Look at how long the guv-mint took to release that cylons look like humans now? They held that card very close to their chest for a very long time. Imagine that sort of lck of information, for 1.5 years, while staring at a freighter bulkhead.
Ambrosia maragarita’s be damned…gimme mind altering substances and give’ em to me NOW! No wonder a booklet like Baltar’s would have been so popular: look at some of the mileage conspiracy nuts get in our universe, let alone a stimulus deprived bunch of war scarred refugees!
I hate to say it, but New Caprica, while a hole, had solid ground, running water and unrecycled air. God it’d be worth it just to get away from 18 month old farts recirculating endlessly… :eek:
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Add in the fact that most of these people don’t have any work or job to do. At least the people in the Tillium ship had a job to do that they could see as being critical for the survival of the fleet, just as much as the crew of the Galactica. Think about being a mid level sales manager that was commuting to a district meeting when the attack happened. You have been living in a cramped ship not doing anything helpful except staying alive, and actually staying alive is kinda out of your hands. I’m surprised that there wasn’t more rioting on the various ships as people went crazy. So getting a tent and starting to be productive again would be a massive incentive to go planet side.
Knowing what I know from watching the show, I’m a Roslin fan. But as a member of the fleet, cooped up on a ship, having to endure all kindsa craaaaap, I think I’d feel like I was in prison for something I didn’t do. And at that point, getting some fresh air courtesty of President Baltar would sound pretty good.
Until the Cylons showed up.
…regarding Kasey’s age: there’s no way she’s “3 or 4.” She’s 2, 2 1/2 at most. I was thinking, actually, that she looks like anywhere from 18 to 30 months old.
But then, I have two girls (although one of them is only weeks old, granted), so I’ve learned what humans in the larval stage look like the hard way. 
Further regarding Kacey’s age and parentage:
I have always thought that she might really have been partly composed of Starbuck’s genetic material- or possibly even a clone of her- who, as an embryo (or, if you will, while in the larval stage), was implanted into the other lady. Other Lady then serves as a type of surrogate and true momma to Kacey.
Here’s where I’m going here: Starbuck did, indeed, have something removed from her in the region of her kidney/ovary while she was at the farm. The cylons were breeding humans, presumably mixing them with cylon dna, to push the part of their plan that involved “the shape of things to come.” Kara Thrace was known to them and important to them before they even managed to capture her. Once she escaped, they had no way of knowing whether they’d get another chance to pursue her and her special destiny. I can see Leoben, who has proved that he doesn’t really understand humans or humanity, trying to recreate Kara and whatever it is that is special about her. After all, it would work for a cylon, right?
All this is contingent upon the idea that the Other Lady somehow escaped the farm (or Leoben set her free) and joined Anders’ group before Kara and co. rescued them at the end of season 2. It’s possible, though highly improbable. It is just a theory that I like to toy with.
I can, however, also see Leoben just stealing a little girl who reminded him of Kara when he saw her in the marketplace, to frak with Kara’s head.
Finally, I never saw it as silly that Kara bought the idea that Kacey was 18 months old despite looking like she’s about 2 1/2 to 3. Remember, it is REALLY hard to get children to act, especially children of the 18 month old variety. I always figured that RDM and his merry band of followers chose a child actor who could take the directions that she had to take. I think it would have been much more of a challenge to my willing suspension of disbelief if little Kacey had flailed around a lot and screamed “no!” at everything when Kara yelled at her or when Leoben introduced her to her “mother.”