GWC Podcast #65

Yes, although I’m old-school, and this is more like it

In my opinion, this one ranks as one of the worst movies ever - the first time I wanted to walk out and demand a refund.

Lifeforce. Starring Patrick Stewart. Stupid, stupid movie about space vampires.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0089489/

Good points all around. Maybe now that both Apollo and Starbuck have gone through ordeals that have matured them (you know, death’ll do that to ya), they might finally be ready for each other.

The imdb page says it was written by Dan O’Bannon, the same guy who wrote Alien. If the featurettes in the 9-disk Alien Quadrilogy set are right (Quadrilogy, what a dumb name, but I bought it anyway), then there were a lot of rewrites to his original, corny script.

BTW, Melissa, I never told you that your avatar is way cool. I would never have gotten the reference to Melissa the Duck if I hadn’t been reading about the Looney Tunes characters on Wikipedia the other day (yes, I was reading about Looney Tunes on Wikipedia; I earned that geek card, dammit).

Hello colonists!

This is my first posting here. I just have to say thank you for all the podcasts that you’ve made available. It makes Battlestar Galactica 10X more enjoyable by listening to your insightful analyses each week. My only suggestion - if you could please focus on battlestar talk more during the podcasts - I’ve noticed that your latest few podcasts have gone off topic for long stretches of time, i.e. non-battlestar galactica stuff. But it is still all good. Thanks for the podcasts!

FYI - I am still working on the design of my battlestar. All I know right now is that my battlestar will be yellow colored. If the cylons want to attack my ship, I want to make sure that they can see me. :slight_smile: And of course it will have a giant image of spongebob on it - this alone will probably freak out the cylons and short-circuit their electronic brains.

Welcome to our wee corner of the 'verse. Please keep your hands in the vehicle at all times and don’t forget to tip your waitress. Please try the meatloaf.

As for the “occassional” tangent, with the last fresh content being 10 months ago, I am constantly amazed they stay on topic at all. It takes dedication to do what they do. Imagine what they will do with two minutes of new material coming at us this Friday!

Trillian, definitely a cool name. Loved it when I first read it, love it as your handle. I am glad you like the old school Trillian, the one in the movie seriously destroyed the entire experience for me. She couldn’t act or deliver a line at all. It was ridiculous. For a movie I have been waiting for my whole life to have one actor wander on the screen as if she was pushed out there, blink a bit, fumble a line whilst looking like she is considering whether to go get a pizza or get her nails done…

…that is just so, so wrong. Apologies for the ramble, great handle!

Thanks, Stroogie/Glimfeather. The Scarlet Pumpernickel is one of my faves, and even though I’m way, way too old for it, my dad still calls me “The Fair Melissa” (with Daffy’s lisp).:slight_smile:

I am a lifelong Looney Tunes fan, but I haven’t read the LT wiki page. Hmmm, looks like my morning just got busy!

The pictures or Trillian reminded me of how disappointed I was with the HHGTTG Galaxy movie. (My acronym looks like a bit of DNA…) I didn’t hate it like I’ve hated the other movies we’ve discussed, it was just not that good. I think it’s because they replaced the dialog with special effects. and missed the point of the books. The BBC miniseries was much better.

Amazingly, I really enjoyed the H2G2 movie, and I was truly prepared to hate it. I had to think about it for a while after reading the comments here to figure out why.

I suspect that experiencing H2G2 in so many other formats – some good, some great, and some miserable – trained me over years and years to draw from them what I like while ignoring the junk. I mean, the first TV series left a lot to be desired, but I still enjoyed it.

I knew that they’d have to shorten the story a bit in movie form. At least they didn’t nerf it. I feel about the movie story kinda the way I do about Hunt for Red October (“Red October, checking in!”) – it’s not the book story, but it honors it correctly.

I mean, c’mon: the dolphins at the beginning were totally worth the price of admission all by themselves. I sang the song for days. And I really wanted to hate Mos Def as Prefect, but he pulled it off so well that I can completely envision him fitting in with the rest of the universe. Good stuff.

But then again, I thought Zooey Deschanel made a great Trillian, too, and I was one of only five people who showed up at the local theater on opening night with my towel – I brought three of the others with me – so maybe you should take my comments with that in mind…

I really think that Kara and Anders would have been good together in the long run except for New Caprica and Kara’s trauma there. I’m pretty sure that she would have cheated, but Anders knew that, too, when he married her (as he says at some point in season 3.5). Kara and Sam love each other and are devoted to each other and I think complement each other well. Kara has a mission and sticks to it and every other part of her life is frakked up- she is a soldier. Whereas Sam isn’t military, isn’t a leader, can’t be a pro pyramid player anymore… but emotionally that dude is more solid than his massive biceps. He helped ground Kara in her personal life and she did well with it. She’s a prowler and she’s sexy and she’s gonna cheat on you, but if she loves you she’ll be back- Sam could handle that. Lee can’t. I think that Kara couldn’t handle marriage but if she hadn’t frakked up and gotten the matching tats with him, she would have done well with him long term.

I also think Kara blames Sam for her choice to muster out on NC and therefore eventually causing her to get taken by Leoben. She hated herself, she hated that she turned her back on the only constant part of herself other than alcohol when she left the Colonial military, and she hated Sam for being her reason. All of this, of course, was pre-Kara Thrace And Her Special Destiny, so we’ll see where it goes now that she’s all freaky-angelic.

Finally, I think Lee is good for Kara, but in the family sense. Not in the life-long love sense. They have hot, hot chemistry, but they couldn’t sustain a relationship. Lee would NOT be ok with Kara having affairs, for one. And Kara would get fed up with Lee’s moral complexity.

Good Lords of Kobol, how did this get so long? I think about BSG altogether too much. In other news, I have a kick ass Starbuck costume put together for Halloween.

Slooooooowly making it through the podcast this week (for obvious reasons), but wanted to comment on Dune: apparently that movie was taken away from David Lynch by the studio, which supposedly explains its level of suckitude. I haven’t seen it, though, nor its recent director’s cut, so I don’t know how bad it is. I did see the SciFi channel version, which was pretty good and got me to pick up the book, which was, as Chuck would say, awesome. One of the best books I’ve read, period (in any genre). I did think the end unravels rather quickly and I was disappointed to find that it’s a series (though glad that it’s enjoyable on its own without having to read the rest of it), but those are minor, minor quips.

I’m with you on the film version of Starship Troopers, Chuck. A total waste of celluloid.

Trillian, I would have cut parts of this quote out for length, but I feel right on the same page with you on ALL of this. Especially the part about Starbuck and Lee’s chemistry being the only believable one (except Helo and Sharon, I believe too).

And the Hitchiker’s Guide movie was okay - but the singing dolphins MADE my DAY!! I love singing dolphins!!

Really? I kind of feel (and I finally got to re-watch “Scar” two days ago, so this is fresh in my mind) that Lee and Kara getting together is totally wrong. Those two’s chemistry seems somehow beyond lovers and more like siblings. In fact, they almost WERE siblings, by marriage anyway, something I wish came up more often.

I grew up watching H2G2 (also listening on shortwave), seems like that and Dr Who were the only tv we were allowed to watch, so I knew seeing the H2G2 movie was going to be risky. The movie turned out okay (I should really rewatch it, since I can’t remember it too well), but it just wasn’t funny. The plot was okay, but somehow they killed the quirky humour that Adams did so well. I knew a few people that were scared to watch it, for fear it would ruin their beloved, I remember recommending they see it, so it couldn’t have been so bad.

I saw the Dune movie as a kid and couldn’t remember any of it, so I watched it again as an adult. I could only get partway through, it was so awful. Somehow this convinced me to try reading the books (I think I stopped halfway through #5). The books were very good and the movie either didn’t follow the book enough or didn’t move far enough away. Thus, when I tried again to watch the movie, I just had to turn it off because it was wrong. Fortunately the miniseries was okay (I only watched the first part, not the Children of Dune stuff) and satisfied any further Dune desires I had. I know people who liked SST, I know no one that like Dune. I won’t offer any further opinions though, I haven’t read or seen SST.

i am a big zoey fan.

Take a look at today’s Dilbert

http://dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2007114666005.gif

As soon as I finished listening, I whipped out Volume 2 of the Looney Tunes collection (excuse me while I whip this out) and watched 14 Road Runner/Wile E. Coyote cartoons. They are indeed restored and uncut in all their explosive glory. I laughed until the tears came, and then laughed some more.

Speaking of laughing, Chuck, you sounded really happy on that podcast. Is that what seven and a half hours of “Halo” does for you? You can totally hear it in your laugh.

Maybe it was the Halo, or maybe it’s the fact that I discovered the local comic shop, which Sean and I try to visit every few weeks now. Or maybe it’s just that we recorded the podcast right after a really tough week – actually a series of tough weeks – at work. Maybe it was the fact that there were so many fun things to talk about from Halo to BB to Scar (a great episode in my book). Whatever it was, I remember enjoying recording the cast more than usual.

Anyway, it’s very cool that you noticed. Thanks!

Dissing Lifeforce?

Ok, I really liked that movie, then again I haven’t watched it since High School.