GWC Podcast #187: Stargate SG-U

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#21

Great podcast guys, keep it up! It seems like there was a lot less chatter on the forum over the course of the Stargate Arc, maybe not as many people been interested, but these last couple have been some of my favorites. Also kudos on the extra cast next week, I figured you were pushing everything back to fit in the call show, but instead we get an extra podcast. Sweet.

I noticed the lack of WAAAAAs going to commercials as well. I think it was purly a stylistic choice, to make it more different. Overall the show was stylistically very different from the other Stargates, even if the story was sort of the same.

As to the people flying out of the Gate - could be something as simple as imperfect artifical gravity.

“Is this your homework Larry?” :smiley:

#22

[spoiler]Was there ever a good reason why the base was attacked? The Lucian Alliance was mentioned, but I don’t think they were actually identified.

Why not dial out to one of the SGC beta sites instead of an unknown? They could have walked into another black hole for all they knew.[/spoiler]

#23

NO. Never Explained.

[spoiler]Why not dial out to one of the SGC beta sites instead of an unknown? They could have walked into another black hole for all they knew.[/spoiler]

Dr. Rush [spoiler]Stopped the dialing, and intentional went where ever the 9th chevron took them.[/spoiler]

#24

The Goa’uld attacked the station because someone leaked it as the location of the special gate – probably along with the information that the Tau’ri believed they’d found a way to activate the gate.

It certainly would’ve been a better idea from a safety standpoint to dial Earth or somewhere known. Rush believed he’d found the correct way to open the gate, and with the base in the process of being destroyed, dialing right then was his only chance to do so.

Does that justify doing so? I think that’s one of the questions of the show. It was a horrible thing to do to everyone, but certainly if they obtain technology that’d help protect Earth, it’d be worth it. Plenty of others have made such a sacrifice through the Stargate history, though admittedly they (for the most part) made the sacrifice themselves instead of involving lots of others.

Looking forward to the next ep!

#25

I think there is gonna be a whole lot of complaining about this, especially once they establish that getting back to Earth on a regular basis is going to be unlikely(Im assuming on this point). I don’t feel bad for any of them though, they may not be SG teams but once you sign that waiver and head off world you gotta expect this kind of thing to happen.

#26

<_< Lucian Alliance*

#27

This is what’s killing me. Stargate had very specific rules for how the tech opperates (which is geek catnip.)

As far as I can tell, what they did was randomly dial the ninth chevron address, which is two orders of magnitude more random than the seven-chevron addresses that they have ALREADY ESTABLISHED are too few and far between for random dialing to be a useful endeavor.

I’m still going to give them a few episodes, but this may well be my SG version of “Red Matter.”

#28

They had the address from the Atlantis database. The problem they’d been having was in terms of power generation.

#29

Regarding the communication Stones:

These were first brought up in Season 10 of SG-1. Daniel and Vala accidently used them to zap themselves to the galaxy the Ori were in, whereupon it was discovered that they had taken over the bodies of two people that lived there.

The stones work thusly (as I recall, this could be wrong infor, so you have bee warned): There has to be two stones for it to work, one on each end. The person initatining the communication posses the person on other other end. It’s possible to simply disconnect the communication from the other end and return to your body, but they had to figure out how to do that originally, and it took them like four or five episodes.

So, Rush uses the stones, takes possession of the person closest to the stones in the Milky Galaxy, and wakes up in the SGC. That it happened to be the doctor it was (gah, I can’t remember his name!) was pure luck. It could just as easily have been a marine or air force officer.

Also, I don’t believe that Rush talked to anyone back in the SGC. I think he checked to see if the stones worked, then zipped back and told everyone his BS.

I don’t think Rush is evil. I do, however, believe that he is egotistical. He needs to be right. So much so that he is willing to endanger others to prove he is right. Thus the reason he needed Shooter’s Daughter to understand that it wasn’t his fault. Also, this explain’s his stopping the dialing of Earth and instead dialing the 9th chevron address. He needed to prove to everyone that he could do it, and this was his last chance. The fact that it put everyone that passed through the gate in danger was never a consideration. All that mattered was that he did it.

Personally, I like his character. I like the idea that, with no external bad guy (No Ori, no Wraiths, no Gau’ould), the writters will HAVE to have all the conflect come from the people on the ship. Good and evil will become more shades of gray on this show as opposed to other SG shows.

-Chris

#30

RE: the “Kino” comment at about 1:10:00, “Kino” is an amateur filmmaking movement:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kino_(movement)

It is also the name of an open-source video editor.

#31

Thanks for the links and explanations.

#32

Small correction. They were first seen in Citizen Joe, then used the way you talk about at the start of season 9 in combination with one of the Ancient comm terminals.

#33

I think it is safe to say that the only people with fleets of Ha’tak ships are the Jaffa and Lucian Alliance, maybe us? :eek: I agree that SG-1 wouldn’t have dialed Earth either but they would have dialed another much closer :wink: address. I think Rush dialed the 9th chevron because he knew it very well was their last chance and as we see he is so conceited he isn’t willing to let his work go to waste even at the cost of human life. Remember when he said “what makes you think I won’t try”, I think he is like Daniel in his pusuit of knowledge he just doesn’t have the same strong moral center. I am more concerned about Young and the reason for the attack on the base. Remember the scene where he was talking to his wife and fainted or seizured. I don’t think he is bad but he may be on a mission like Jack’s in the original movie. If he is sick other than the injuries some of the power may have ordered him to get them there. Maybe Rush was told the same thing. I am curious about the look they gave each other at the end. That base along with any off world base would be given the highest secrecy and must have been leaked…or given away? I am highly anticipating seeing what happens!

#34

Oh, right, I forgot about Citizen Joe! Man, that was an awesome episode.

And thanks for the season correction. :slight_smile:

-Chris

#35

Woot! I was "someone on the forum"ed!!!

I do feel I need to point out when discussing Dr. Rush that what you say about his company is what you say about society.

[Runs away ducking…]

#36

Goa’uld? Are you sure?

#37

It was Goa’uld tech. Not clear if they were Goa’uld.

Side note: any form that asks for ‘race’ I’m now going to fill out ‘Tau’ri.’

#38

Chuck @ 1:05:40:

[b]Stargate Universe scifi catch phrase:

“The Gates are gonna open every so often because it thinks they need something and then they’re gonna have so many hours to get off and do whatever they’re gonna do.”[/b]

Sounds like a good time to me. IYKWIM.

#39

Sounds like Voyager meets Sliders because of the time limits they’ll have.

#40

When they get to the planet with this 9th chevron gate, Eli asked if the planet had a gate why did they take a ship. which way did the gate work? I thought you could go there, but not leave they with the gate. I’m going to watch it again tonight if I get a chance. I was totally digging what sean was saying about this episode. felt like a little out of all scifi’s play book. some SG-1, Alantis, and BSG. with the long waits this could be scifi only hit for a while. so glad to see Amanda Tapping back. I hating losing her off alantis so fast. does anyone else think the writers for this show are fans of LOST… I was feeling that during the first few minutes on this new ship. so many people want to take charge. IOA Girl, Congress Dude(SHooter), Colonel Dude, and LT Frak anything but can’t remember your name in the mean time Dude. I think the corpsman chick is going to play a larger role, since we haven’t seen a Medical Doctor yet.