GWC Podcast #178: Alien

Thoroughly enjoyable cast! Chuck working blue this week was hilarious!

Enjoyed the cast! Chuck mentioned how cool it was that the crew were regular working stiffs. I brought this up during the frak party last week. I love that they aren’t heros, I love all the workplace b*tching and moaning. They were regular people dealing with an incredible situation and I think that’s a big part of why the film works so well still. I hadn’t seen it in years and jumped out of my seat at least once.

From a woman’s perspective, it definitely made an impression on me to see such a strong woman kicking ass. You really didn’t see that back then. I’m also glad there wasn’t any nudity. The story didn’t need it. And this film is more about story, which is something that gets really lost with CGI now.

Yes, yes, yes, and yes! I LOVE Spaceballs! I used to tell people the only Star Wars movie I’d ever seen (before I watched all 6 with you guys!) was Spaceballs!

But this was my 1st time watching Alien, also. And I totally heard “Hello, my baby, hello my darlin, hello my good time gal!” in my head when that scene came on!

Chuck can get his Nostromo swag here, along with a lot of other movie shirts that would be of interest to GWC peeps.

i don’t know if it just me, but the more the Crue were joking about the movie, the more it just showed how scared shitless the original Alien movie made us all feel the first time we watched it.

Like Sean was saying how he went out with the guys to watch it and they keeping joking to deflect the intensity of the whole show :cool:

looks like there will be a new one coming

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Oh, I love that movie so much, even if I can’t watch it often because I cry and end up feeling drained when it’s over. And it has a great, great soundtrack. FINALLY available on iTunes, even, after like three years of litigation.

I still haven’t seen Alien all the way through in one sitting, but I saw a bigger chunk than I’ve previously seen yesterday on A&E. And my coworkers kept giving me funny looks all morning for giggling at the kabuki/bu–NWS, mixup.

It’s interesting how the prism of the Aliens arc changes over time as the franchise progress and the films are directed and produced by different people. In the director’s commentary for Alien, Ridley Scott talked about how he viewed that first 20 foot alien space jockey as the sole pilot of some kind of carrier. And that his thought was the carrier would go around and shoot alien eggs at potential targets introducing the Alien creatures like a weapon. (Clearly one fell out of the gun breach and caused that guy some pain.) To me that’s a pretty damn good bio-weapon considering the Alien takes on the physical characteristics of its hosts as we see later in 3 when it’s more like a dog than a person.

Assuming that the crashed spaceship that Ripley and the Nostromo encountered on that planetoid had an active distress beacon I’d think that it wouldn’t be too far of a leap to assume that the ship was only a couple hundred years old not thousands – with some kind of nuclear battery power source that would only last so long. If that’s the case in Ridley Scott’s version of the universe I’d think that more of the space jockeys would still be around somewhere or at least more evidence of them existing at one time would be found. Especially considering that where they found this derelict ship was on the path between wherever it was they were actively mining and earth. Orbital mechanics aside I’d figure traffic in that area would only increase as humans stretched further and further out from Earth but we never see anything like the derelict ship again.

One thought would be that the ship was just drifting for hundreds of years then randomly crashed on the planetoid – but considering how difficult a drill it seemed to be to safely land the Nostromo on the surface I’d figure there would be too many pieces to pick up if the derelict crashed on the planetoid in an uncontrolled manner.

I’ve heard that in comics there was a cross-over between Aliens and Predators ultimately resulting in the AVP movies they seem to crank out every couple of years, maybe at some point in the past the space jockey’s were fighting the Predators and lost but their weapon – the Alien - lived on past their creators. I’m wondering if the Hive mind has an informed opinion on that.

Regarding the Horror vs Suspense debate for Aliens, I think the answer lies largely in what has been acceptable for film over the years. Back in 1979 Alien would classify as Horror, because by those standards it was extremely gory. I bet it was that gore and not Sigourney’s skimpy panties that gave it an X rating in Britain, who tend to be more liberal when it comes to nakedness than the US.

However, its quite amazing how much the standards have changed such that Alien is now seen to be a very tame movie gore-wise but still as suspenseful as ever.

When watching the movie this weekend I couldn’t stop thinking about Chuck’s observation from maybe 100 podcasts back that there is a dividing line somewhere in the mid-90’s that clearly separates computer technology. Throughout the 70’s, 80’s and early 90’s you expected and wanted you computers to make a lot of noise (clicks, thumps, grinds, etc.). Quite often it was the only sign that they were actually operating. Ever since the mid-90s though if your computer ever makes a noise like that it will send a shiver down your spine like your climbing through a Nostromo air shaft. Anyway, it was amusing to hear how much sound effect noise they added in the movie to show that Mother was processing something.

Lastly, regarding the question as to whether S.A.R.A.H. can speak dirty sex talk? She was programed by Fargo. 'Nuff said…

Re: Horror vs. Suspense, I can’t recall or document this quote… Wait… I don’t think it was from one of the Alien creative team… OK, I got it:

During Bravo/AFI’s top 100 horror films, someone described Alien as a haunted-house movie in outer space. And the setting addresses the burning question you ask of so many haunted-house pics: Why in the hell don’t they just get out of there?

So I don’t know if that’s what the writer/director’s intent was, but that’s one way to look at it.

Technically this parodies the AvP2 video game… but it seems relevant.

wrong…funny…but just wrong

Ya know, if I had a ship full of those things I was flying around with, I’d have some alien-repellent or something just in case. Ya know?

ROFL…oh, that is wrong on so many levels… but a funny kind of wrong.

Alien is a great choice for an arc. Woot!!
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Umm…I hate to be Mr. Correct-It, but Winona Rider isn’t in the 3rd Aliens movie. She’s in the 4th one (Alien Resurrection.)

Excuse me sir, there is only 3 Alien movies. Alien. Aliens. and Alien with Winona Rider.

Shhhh

Oh. Oh yes, right. Sorry. Sorry. MY mistake. You’re absolutely right.
There’s no way there would be a movie where Ripley is bald and ends up on a crazy prison world. Nope. Couldn’t happen. Move along. Nothing to see here.

Conspiracy?


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Huh. I’d always heard that IV was the Alien movie that should go unnamed. Then again I haven’t seen it yet, and admittedly ^3 doesn’t rise to the level of the first two…