GWC Podcast #156: BSG 4.5 Daybreak, Part 1

It’s the penultimate BSG episode! Highlights: We discuss meeting Baltar’s father and the episode’s dramatic deepening of Caprica Six and her relationship with Baltar, tear into the heady philosophical questions of what makes one human and what God is, note how each flashback shows us a key beginning that made the show’s current state possible, enjoy seeing the last time Roslin was a whole person, ponder the final moments of Cavil’s plan and the fate of Hera, and offer up some final predictions (and hopes) before the finale next week. Note: Next week’s podcast will feature a live studio audience from the GWC National Meetup!

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I just have one thing to say about this episode:
(ahem)
“Sean and Roslin sittin’ in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G!”
Seriously, I busted a gut laughing when Roslin found out the name of her blind date. One episode to go, and the GWC gets a shout out (maybe?). :cool:

How long before this is up on iTunes. I like to listen to it on my ipod and I’m itching to find out what you guys had to say about last nights kickass episode.

Penultimate !!

What a frakkin ride this has been!!

True awesomeness.

Sweet question - who gets to kill Cavil. How about Bill Adama? By the way, they have never appeared in the same scene. They appear never to have met.

I do believe they have. In “Eye of Jupiter,” Cavil offered Baltar to Adama to sweeten the deal.

Yay, podcast! Looks like I’ll have something to listen to on my 3-hour drive home today.

Correct! Good memory. But did they “eye ball” each other?

I love it, but boy the the last episode will be BIG, the lead is so cool.

My mantra right now is:

Patience, Patience.

That Black Hole leads somewhere, and someone is going to go into it and find something. I just know it!

I was thinking the same thing especially since racetrack found it. Everything racetrack finds turns out to be real important.

I just want to state that I gave this episode an I or incomplete. We all were talking grades and I feel we can not determine how this part was until we see the second and third part. Will the flash backs say more.

I was thinking the same thing, like it’s another Maelstrom. My first thought, actually, was that they’d get sucked through it and into OUR universe, where they’d find OUR Earth. But that’s a little too far out for BSG. Still, one anticipates…

Very interesting theory–one I had not considered. Good pickup!

It is indeed. If it factors into space travel by the RTF (or what’s left of it after the big battle) - then next stop - Our Earth.

I’ve listened to most of the podcast while cleaning today and it has nearly brought tears to my eyes several times, echoing many of my own thoughts and feelings in regard to the show (overall–as a series). I loved the use of the flashbacks in this episode. I know many GWC’ers were really disgruntled by them and couldn’t see the point, but I have faith and patience that RDM will give us a payoff, that there is a reason for the snippets that we’ve seen, that we will see more as the end of the story unfolds, and that the big picture will make sense and be even more beautiful. For me, the flashbacks remind me who these people were before they were on the Galactica. As mentioned in the cast, the flashbacks show us how far they’ve fallen, how much they’ve lost, how few, dear scraps of humanity remain for them and why they fight and claw to preserve it, even against odds greater than they know.

I liked the flashbacks. It was a nice way to show the progress of the characters and the show.This was a part one so it was all build up. It was nice to be reminded of the good side of the characters before they go into a giant battle.

I hate to correct you guys in your own show, but Zak Adama was actually in the show before, back in the season one episode “Acts of Contrition”. In Starbuck’s flashback they talk about the flight test. (While naked)

I have to go with Sean’s theory about Adama’s flashback being about the decommissioning ceremony.

Not sure about the meaning of the bird, other then it is significant. If you remember right after the card that said “Caprica City” it showed water, which was eventually the fountain which Laura hoped in, and the bird which Lee tried to chase out of the house.

Good call, Fenatic. I just remembered that myself. If I was the actor playing Zak, and the last time I was on the show I’d been making out with Katee Sackhoff, I’d be back on set the moment they called me.

At first I was just as stumped about the pigeon as most everyone else, but now I’m thinking it represents his feelings for Kara at that point because it’s something that just got in without him meaning it to. He’s trying to make the bird get out but just ends up breaking things in the process.

What makes me sure this scene is at least related to Kara in some way is that Bear used part of the Lee and Kara love theme in the music right at this moment. He never does things like that for no reason. And it’s an incomplete fragment of the theme, which could be his way of hinting that there’s more to this flashback and particular backstory to see but we won’t get more context and understand the whole meaning of it until later.

Which I’m assuming is the case with pretty much all the flashbacks in this episode, so I agree it’s hard to judge it yet. It felt like watching the first 40 minutes of a really long movie and is obviously not meant to stand on its own. Even the cliffhanger didn’t seem like much of a planned cliffhanger. I wouldn’t be surprised if they just filmed all of “Daybreak” as a three-hour episode and decided how they would cut it up into parts once it was done.