Very true!
Monday at noon, I think.
I really think this was the payoff of the webisodes - it’s the webisode that makes stuff in your brain go click with everything else in the series. Otherwise, it would have felt like something much more isolated.
I didn’t spoil myself, so I’m very excited about #10 (though Monday feels very far away…)
I am computerless for the next 72 hours (primitive Blackberry only). Will somebody give me a brief recap of 9? Did the Lichens kill the crew? (If so, I saw it coming.)
Sure:
In a nutshell: Easy and Shark are still dead in the front seat; Felix is still horrified. BYBBQ8 tells Felix how she played him through the whole New Caprica occupation and tells him that he just convinced himself that the people on the list were being freed and not killed–she freed a handful of them and lied to him about the rest so Felix could keep up his delusion that he was helping. “Hope seduced you.” (Ouch.) Felix, much freaked out, palms the scalpel. Eight says she isn’t a monster, that she only killed when the probabilities dictated that that was the best course of action–both here and on New Caprica. She also says Baltar knew, even if Felix was hiding the truth from himself. Flashes to the preamble to the pen-stabbing in “Taking a Break…” Eight tells Felix that he chose not to see that she was the murderer this whole time because of the delusion of “hope…faith…love.” Then flash to the infamous Baltar whispering to Gaeta, only this time we get to hear what Baltar said: “I know what your Eight did.” Then Gaeta does a repeat performance of the stabbing routine with Eight, this time using the scalpel.
That’s genius. Where on Erf did you get a picture of a bloody pen?
That got my attention… the whole faith, hope and love is huge in Christianity (“And now faith, hope, and love abide, these three; and the greatest of these is love.” 1 Corinthians 13:13) - I wonder how that plays into the theology of the OneTrueGod, who loves everyone because they’re perfect just the way they are…
Someone finally uploaded that on youtube. That was awesome…
Not only does it shed new light on Gaeta, it also shed light on other non-dead characters in the webisode.
I will wait to watch ten with the the podcast. With so many that went ahead and watched ten before, I can’t believe they didn’t find out anything of significance… And in the end the story can still turn out both ways for Gaeta. The ending of sobe 9 was pretty clever.
HAHA! Brendon. Quick work there. Butterfingers! I totally called this weapons card webisodes ago. I KNEW it was going to be important. 
cue in completely self indulgent ah ha!!
OK, finally just watched the episode on youtube, and now downloading the cast. Episode nine was definitely worth waiting for. Say what you will about crazy ol’ BYBBQ8, when the Eights are crazy, they’re crazy the whole way through.I totally thought she did it on purpose, getting Gaeta all mad and emotional because she wanted him to [spoiler]off her (and hence preserve more air so Gaeta himself can live). [/spoiler] (in case some people haven’t watched the 'sode yet. anyway, if you haven’t watched, don’t read on.)
So the verdict - from what has already transpired between Baltar and Gaeta all the way back in the end of S3, it would seem that Gaeta did indeed realize what was happening, and either consciously/subconsciously blocked it out of his head. This would also be the reason why when he was about to be spaced by the Resistance group, he didn’t put up as big of a fight. While he did help the resistance, he also realized he helped the cylons as well. Butterfinger guilt!
Welcome to the forum danno, Viper_Knight, and John from Monon!
Brendon, sweet new weapon card!
And thanks for the succinct recap, Kappa!
Fracking corporate firewall proxy. Disconnected the VPN, and there it was. I s’pose caches were not updated…
BYBBQ, or is Crazy 8? Who knows what’s true or imagined…
On the podcast, the crew discussed if Gaeta was as gulity of collaborating with the Cylons as Baltar. I personally think Gaeta’s “crimes” aren’t comparable to what Baltar did. I can forgive Baltar for signing the death list. They didn’t need him to sign it, so they could have killed off whoever they wanted without his acquiescence. The act that get’s him a one way trip out the airlock (and the title of number one scumbag) is when he helped the Cylons get back on the road to Earth (i.e., find the Lion’s Head Nebula). They may not have found it without him. Perhaps the fleet even gets away. At that point he decided his life was more important than the survival of his entire species. Was that part of his actions mentioned when he was on trial?
I would want to hear what “Lawyer Bill” would have to say about Gaeta’s culpability in the crimes committed by the Cylon[z]. Even if Gaeta was never found out what the Crazy 8s were doing with part of the lists he is still responsible for giving them the list in the first place.
Further if at any point he became aware that the Cylon[z] were killing the people on those list then in my book at least he is just as guilty as Baltar for signing the execution order.
I’d aggree but it did not seem to me that Gata knew anything about the list being killed.
I’d like to make a few observations about the eight. Am I the only person who finds it interesting that she seems to be the best eight we ever saw? She really does fool Gata, and does not fall in love with him. She is also pretty loyal to her own cause.
She is the most real eight we’e seen up close.
My understanding of the law is pretty rudimentary, however, I would say that Gaeta did not have criminal intent nor was he criminally negligent. I would be curious to hear what Lawyer Bill has to say.
In my previous post I wasn’t speaking legally, but rather morally.
BYBBQ8 also gave me an Agent Smith vibe when she was telling Gaeta to get real and see the world for what it is…
o my god just saw the webisode, its really bad when Baltar of all people has higher ground than you 
can’t wait to ear that podcast
Lots of thanks for the recap, Kappa.
These writers are pretty good.
Wow, she was creepy. Especially the line about “you kill the ones your enemy values”? She basically out-and-out said she never really liked Gaeta. And the fact she let a few people go so he’d think she was doing what she said… OUCH.
I got a different reading out of the “I’m a woman and a Cylon, I didn’t seduce you,” line than Audra did. I took that as her knowing that Felix strongly preferred men/was gay and was not a friend of the Cylons, and therefore her actively seducing him never would have worked. It happened because of what she said- Felix believed that she was helping him and got caught up in that. With that reading, it ended up coming across very much as Stockholm’s Syndrome of Felix’s part to me. Which… wow, that poor boy really got mind-frakked on NC.
In the podcast Roslin’s change in the last season and her final admission that she loves Adama is mentioned. That made wonder and I was curious as to other folk’s reaction.
In the trailer there is a clip of Roslin screaming “I’m coming to get you all…” What if what causes this reaction in her is the assassination of Adama? Even if Roslin’s scream is not connected to an attempt on Adama’s life, it seems to me that some major characters are going to die. Does this sound logical, or am I crazy?
That’s an interesting reading. It brings to light the “chicken or the egg” question about how their relationship came about: Felix’s feelings and the physical relationship influenced his trusting the Eight with the death list, and Eight’s apparent willingness to help save the humans no doubt influenced Felix’s feelings for her, but which came first? Did Eight approach him for a romantic relationship and then they devised the list plan, or did Eight approach him with the list plan and then used a romantic and sexual relationship to cement his trust (and completely frak with his brain)? Your idea that it’s the latter makes a lot of sense and also sets Felix apart from Baltar a bit more.
I’m starting to think Zarek was smart for going into detention right off the bat. That way, it seems he avoided getting the lab-rat treatment that everybody else got at the hands of the Cylons.
That’s almost exactly what I thought, too, though I’m betting it’s just an attempted assassination, not a successful one, only because it’s way too early in the season to kill off the top-billed actor. Once we get to the last three or four hours of the season, all bets are off, and there will be plenty of carnage, but I’m fearing more for people like Gaeta and Racetrack at this point than main, main characters.
Anyway, back to Roslin: in a weird way, I hope that this is the case. If Roslin just goes back to being Madam Scariest President With Good Intentions, then that really cheapens her emotional journey in “The Hub.” However, if she’s trying to save Adama and is essentially doing her own, more aggressive version of sitting in a Raptor as the Fleet jumps away here, or even if she mistakenly thinks Adama has been killed and completely loses it, I think that would be a legitimate reason for her to be screaming that also doesn’t violate all the progress she made in “The Hub.”