'Fracking' makes water burn

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/09/02/fracking/index.html?hpt=C2

Interesting article on CNN.com about a town’s water supply.

sigh

And, ppl wonder why I worry about companies building new nuclear plants…

If you haven’t see the documentary “Gasland”, you really should. Eye-opening stuff. We talk about drilling to oil and all that, but no one’s talking about “clean” natural gas and the unholy, proprietary chemicals that are being pumped into the earth.

I know it’s a serious problem, but…

A friend of mine sent me a link to a campus protest group a few months ago after I got her into watching Caprica, and their sign, and I had to print it out and tape it to my desk for a little while :smiley: What can I say, I’m apparently twelve at heart.

ETA: The sign said “STOP FRACKING.”

What can I say, I’m apparently twelve at heart.

Yeah, ths Fracking around has to stop.

Maybe I misread the article, but where does it mention nuclear power?

i looked up hydralic fracturing on wiki, and this is the first line:

Hydraulic fracturing (called “frac jobs”[1] or “frac’ing” in the industry[2][3][4] and recently, “fracking” by the media)

yeah… frack jobs

I think the idea is that if they can’t pump oil without poisoning the water supply, do you really want them splitting atoms on a large scale?

Yes, thanks.

Moreso safety precautions and storage of waste.

This story was just featured on CNN.

They showed someone pouring water from the tap into a bottle, then lighting the water on fire from the top. Freaky stuff.

saw that too…

one could say that water is… frakked up…

But that’s really a bit of a non sequitur. There’s a world of difference between drilling for oil and operating a nuclear power plant. How much drilling and pumping water into the ground is involved in nuclear power? I’m certainly no expert, but I’d venture a guess that there isn’t all that much. The fact that mistakes were made in obtaining oil is in no way an indictment of nuclear power. It’s like someone 100 years ago saying, “Well, there was a steam engine explosion the other day, if they can’t build steam engines without them exploding then how can we trust them with this newfangled ‘internal combustion’ technology?”

Nuclear power, like internal combustion, has its own worries and issues. But using a completely unrelated event to say we shouldn’t trust nuclear power has nothing to do with logic and everything to do with one’s own personal bias.

Not to mention that each year coal plants are in operations, they will, GUARANTEED, pump tons of radioactive isotopes into the air as they are contained in the coal being burned, while anti-nuke activists kvetch over the possibility of a small leak happening at a waste storage depot.

It’s like a doctor declining to treat a gunshot wound to the gut because the stitches might get itchy.

‘Terrified’ New Yorkers protest gas drilling
http://money.cnn.com/2010/09/13/news/economy/epa_fracking/index.htm?hpt=C1

BINGHAMTON, N.Y. (CNNMoney.com) – Hundreds of people packed an upstate New York auditorium Monday, many of them fearful of new natural gas drilling that’s spreading to states around the country.

The hearing, held in Binghamton and twice rescheduled due to security issues, is the public comment portion of an Environmental Protection Agency investigation into the safety of a controversial process that extracts natural gas from shale rock.

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Glad to see citizens willing to stop big business and wait for more information before allowing their land and water to be befouled. Fracking is not as safe and open as you might think it should be.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5ghjewZpN2kZF0306S4OLN0axAWmA?docId=03423a334f364af8bc307250639ffffa

Democratic report: carcinogens injected into wells

"Millions of gallons of potentially hazardous chemicals and known carcinogens were injected into wells by leading oil and gas service companies from 2005-2009, a report by three House Democrats said Saturday.

The report said 29 of the chemicals injected were known-or-suspected human carcinogens. They either were regulated under the Safe Drinking Water Act as risks to human health or listed as hazardous air pollutants under the Clean Air Act.

Methanol was the most widely used chemical. The substance is a hazardous air pollutant and is on the candidate list for potential regulation under the Safe Drinking Water Act.

The report was issued by Reps. Henry Waxman of California, Edward Markey of Massachusetts and Diana DeGette of Colorado.

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E.P.A. Links Tainted Water in Wyoming to Hydraulic Fracturing for Natural Gas

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/09/us/epa-says-hydraulic-fracturing-likely-marred-wyoming-water.html?ref=science

But the suite of chemicals found in two test wells drilled at the site, the report said, could not be explained entirely by natural processes. The agency’s analysis of samples taken from deep monitoring wells in the aquifer indicated the presence of synthetic chemicals, like glycols and alcohols consistent with gas production and hydraulic fracturing fluids, benzene concentrations well above standards in the Federal Safe Drinking Water Act standards, and high methane levels.

Fracking companies: “WHAA~~~ fracking with chemicals isn’t safe? who the frak would have known?”