Excalibur Frak Party

Well, I’m not gonna twist your arm. I have to run out anyway. I wish I had time to handle your questions but I can’t. Maybe later.

Unfortunately, I don’t have it here. I thought it was in the stash of movies I keep at work, but apparently not.

All the plates are separate. That kind of armor took way too long to put on and take off, so yeah, there’s essentially a “fly” in it for bathroom breaks. Or for having sex with other knights’ wives. Whatever. :slight_smile:

There is all of that, but a lot more. Don’t you know the stories of King Arthur?

And wow, but Arthur is one big casting mistake, he looks like he couldn’t count to five.

Yeah, he actually was probably the weakest out of the whole cast. A lot of that up to this point is more his inability to act young and immature believably. He does get better later.

I guess I just had expected a completely different story. And I’m really not too amused about the acting in this movie.

Don’t worry. I’ll take care of that. :smiley:

I have to run out anyway. I wish I had time to handle your questions but I can’t. Maybe later.

I’ll field whatever I can.

Northern mythology is kind of blind spot for me. I know the basics, Arthur, the table&knights thing, the sword, but I had it all mixed up with Mists of Avalon and King Lionheart stuff.

Maybe one of my problems is that this movie tries to be both historical AND fantastic at the same time.

What were you expecting? This is Arthur’s story, more or less.

And I’m really not too amused about the acting in this movie.

A lot of it’s very over the top. I think some of that was by design. Sorry if you’re not enjoying one of my favorite movies of all times. I won’t take it personally. Well, I’ll try not to. :(:(:frowning:

Avalon is part of it, although that’s not clear for quite some time. Lionheart? You mean King Richard? He comes much later in English history. Don’t let the armor and customs throw you. It’s deliberately anachronistic. The book it’s based on used contemporary culture mixed with a legend that was over a 1000 years old by that point.

Welcome to Arthurian legend. :stuck_out_tongue:

I guess I had pictured a story where he’s searching for the sword and the climax at the end is that he can draw the sword out of the stone. Am I mixing this up with He-Man by any chance?

Also, how did Arthur’s story come down upon us? Did this originate in Chaucer’s Tales?

A lot of it’s very over the top. I think some of that was by design. Sorry if you’re not enjoying one of my favorite movies of all times. I won’t take it personally. Well, I’ll try not to. :(:(:frowning:

Well, you really shouldn’t take it personally!

I know Richard I has nothing to do with Arthur, but it’s all one big blur in my mind when it comes to the period of English history between 1000 and 1400, which of course means shame on me because I majored in History and English literature - not American literature or Irish literature, no, ENGLISH literature. But I have this huge blank spot between Old English/Beowulf and Early Modern English/The pre-Shakespeare/Shakespeare age.

I had to drop the boards for a week as work strikes back for ultimate control of my time and you start a discussion of one of my favorite movies with out me? I’ll try to make this rewatch if I can.

My dad got into sooooo much trouble when I was a kid for taking me and a friend to see this movie. My friends parents were not amused…

Gotta love Helen Mirren in this… Watching this and The Queen as a double feature really fraks with the synapses…

You might be. This version of the story is somewhat simplified. Originally, the sword in the stone was just a sword. The true king being able to pull it from the stone was the only thing really special about it. When that broke, he was given Excalibur by the Lady of the Lake. The breaking and “healing” of Excalibur were a conflation of those two stories.

Also, how did Arthur’s story come down upon us?

Legend of the English Isles. Developed between the Roman period and the High Middle Ages. Until Shakespeare came around, it was really what it meant to be English.

Did this originate in Chaucer’s Tales?

Older than that. The current theory is that the “real” Arthur, if one existed, was a tribal chieftain who combined many regions together in relative peace during the chaos after the fall of Roman influence.

Well, you really shouldn’t take it personally!

I’ll try not to.

I know Richard I has nothing to do with Arthur, but it’s all one big blur in my mind when it comes to the period of English history between 1000 and 1400, which of course means shame on me because I majored in History and English literature - not American literature or Irish literature, no, ENGLISH literature. But I have this huge blank spot between Old English/Beowulf and Early Modern English/The pre-Shakespeare/Shakespeare age.

Well, you’re watching that blank spot then. It was an ideal of the cultural identity during that time. It’s more legend than history, but there is some history involved, of course…

I guess I jumped the gun a bit and already Netfilixed Excalibur. So I’m ready any time.

Which would bring us into the timeframe of “Old English”, of which I know more than about Middle English times. I got into alliterative verse and translating runes a couple of years ago.

Wow, Wiki says Arthur tried to defend Britain against the Saxons in the early 6th century?

That is REALLY REALLY early, that was even before the English language truly come out as a definitve language in its own right.

If Arthur lived before the Anglo-Saxon conquest of Great Britain, then he was either Roman or Celtic or somewhere in between.

Which of the many rewatches will you attend? :rolleyes:

My dad got into sooooo much trouble when I was a kid for taking me and a friend to see this movie. My friends parents were not amused…

My parents let me watch it on HBO, unsupervised. I think they thought it was educational. :slight_smile:

Gotta love Helen Mirren in this…

She was, as always, amazing.

Watching this and The Queen as a double feature really fraks with the synapses…

LOL. Great idea. :stuck_out_tongue:

You’re early for the “official” rewatch and late for GR’s impromptu one. :slight_smile:

Historically speaking, probably. There’s no definitive proof of that, AFAIK. This movie is based on Le Morte d’Arthur, which collected the legends and histories in the late 15th century.

Oooo, there’s a joke there somewhere, but it’s not coming to me. GR’s Premature Excalibation? Hmm…needs work.:wink:

Nope. You nailed it.

Really? Cool. I’m tired after a long Sunday spent mostly outside. So I’m kinda tired and unside of my humor capabilities.

Today’s activities:
> Helping the kids set up a lemonade stand.
> Draining and cleaning the above ground pool to get it ready to put away for the season.
> Mowin’ the lawn.
> Walking around the neighborhood with the kids trying to drum up customers for above-mentioned lemonade stand.
> Grilling burgers and sausages for father-in-laws birthday.
> Helping neighbor pick peaches off the peach tree he didn’t realize that he had until today.
>Installing bike rack on car.
A full full day and me is pooped!