Did she really die?

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#1

Did Roslin really die? I want to know what the Hive Mind says. Sean says “yes,” Audra says probably, and Chuck says “huh?” I thought she died but the person I was watching with said no. How did y’all take it?

I actually think that robbing us of the chance to say goodbye to her again- and robbing Adama of that chance- is right up RDM’s alley. I can see him torturing us by forcing us to say goodbye when she can’t hear us anymore. Also, Laura herself said back in S1 that it was unfathomable that she watched 18B people die and was still totally preoccupied with her own impending death. How perfect would it be, then, that her death took place in a moment when everyone’s attention was elsewhere? In terms of a poetic ending to her arc, I like it.

If she is dead, then the poll I posted over a year ago finally has an answer. I asked whether Laura could redeem herself anymore (this was between S3 and S4) and how she could do it. If she’s gone, then she didn’t manage to achieve redemption as a leader.

BTW, when I typed “did” into the title browser, the history option that popped in was, “Did I drunk text you Saturday night?” I can’t remember typing any such thing recently and the tense indicates that I was sober after having been drunk, in possession of a phone, and possibly recklessly willing to use it. Hmmm. A mystery.

#2

I don’t think Roslin is not dead yet, but next episode.

#3

I think she will die in sick bay without regaining conscienceness again. first act of the next show.

#4

I don’t know what to think. I like your observation that it would be fitting if she did die at a moment when so much else was going on–plus, we’ve kind of done the deathbed business with her before…twice. Even if she is dead, though, I don’t think she’s finished in terms of the story. The visions are resolving, but they’re not completely resolved yet; I think even if she is dead, she’ll appear in more visions before we’re done.

#5

I did not think so. I still don’t think so, for a couple of reasons.

First, when someone collapses, checking for a pulse is really the first thing you’re supposed to do. Now, in this setting they don’t always do it, they did it here for dramatic effect. Precisely for everyone to think she is dead.

Also, we have not seen the events of the opera vision play out yet. I can’t believe they wuold have built thme up so much & show them repeatedly without giving us some semblance of them being played out in some fashion out of the vision itself.

#6

I would be surprized they would off her in such a casual way. I expect a much more dramatic demise. Maybe they will kill her off this week.

Roslyn and Baltar have not be utilized much lately. Roslyn is constantly getting sicker and not much else. In Baltar’s case, they could have done away with the whole “Baltar comes back to the flock and gets them guns” at this point in the series. Unless there is a specific payoff to it later on.

Wouldn’t be surprized if either of the two bite it before the last episode.

#7

I hope we don’t have Grand Opera here, and everyone’s dead in the last scene. That would be too awful to bear.

#8

There is no way in hell that they will have Roslin die during a montage at the end of the episode. She needs more last moments. She will defiantly die maybe next week but i think probably in the first part of the Finale.

#9

It wouldn’t surprise me if the first scene of the next episode is her funeral, but we’ll see…

#10

No, I hate to disagree, but she doesn’t. It works BETTER for the story if she dies almost off-screen. Her death isn’t important (except to her) … its the reactions of those who remain behind which are important.

One thing I always hate in dramas is the “death scene” where the character gets to linger on just long … enough … to gasp … out … a final … message … about … (blah blah blah). RARELY does this happen in real life.

I won’t mind if Roslin isn’t quite dead yet … but I will mind if we get some fifteen minute tear-jerker scene. She doesn’t need it. And we’ll get more pathos from Eddie’s reaction as Adama anyway. He made Tigh’s coming out MONSTROUSLY painful and yet beautiful to watch. I’d rather watch him wear the hair shirt, as it were, over her death than watch her die.

But, that’s just me. :smiley:

#11

Agreed, Sanderlee. We’ve spent so much time in the series around Roslin’s health that it would be overkill to spend a large portion of yet another episode addressing it. Her death is more effective for a good show than her dying is at this point.

Still, you’re ruining my dreams of uttering a mysterious word as I lay dying from some disease surrounded by friends and family.

“…Fel…ger…caaarrrbbbbb…” (death rattle)

#12

Dunoo if this has been said but if your heart stops you are technicly dead. Its not a real stretch to say the they cant start up the heart again, but she could have “died”
being technicaly correct is the best kind of correct

#13

I voted that she is not dead, even though I hope she is.

Thats right folks, I have been wishing for her death for an entire season.

#14

Ha! I like that. So shes mostly dead?

How many times did we hear “thus shall it come to pass…the dying leader shall know the truth of the opera house”? She don’t know it yet, so she ain’t dead yet. Yet.

#15

I voted yes but that thought had not entered my mind.

What if she has a vision similar to 3 just before she dies.

#16

I thought the first choice was the marine couldn’t find her purse…:rolleyes:

I would’ve picked that.

#17

I totally agree on this.

That is a damn good point. In fact, I might be mostly convinced now. Perhaps she passed out and immediately entered a vision in her unconscious state? And she’ll come out of it, impart the necessary information, and breathe her last?

#18

Though I think it would be good for the storyline for her to die, I think it’s entirely possible that she’s in the Opera House, which would be corroborated with her whisper of “Hera…” right before she collapsed/“died”. It would then logically follow that she learns the truth about the Opera House in her vision, then dies properly in the first act of the show, and the rest of the A-story is everyone being upset and Lee being presidential and such. (In this scenario, the B-story could involve Kara and a confession to Lee about Charbuck; it would be like Ron Moore to hit one character with as much craaaaaap as possible all at once.) The one catch with all of that is that [spoiler]in the picture on Sci Fi, Lee’s in uniform, and he’s not been in uniform since he flew with Kara in “He That Believeth In Me”. Perhaps it’s a flashback,[/spoiler] and Sci Fi is just toying with us again. I guess we’ll know some of the truth on Friday…